The Best Frosting

I am rarely left speechless {if you are my husband you are seriously nodding your head right about now}. I like to talk {husband still nodding}. To dissect the details of important matters, such as great toenail polish and food {husband falling asleep}. However, after taking a taste of this frosting, I was left completely speechless. No words. None. Just absolute, incredible tastebud bliss {husband shocked into silence himself}.

It is the best frosting I have ever tasted in my life.

You might have seen the phenomenon of this type of frosting swirling around. I tried the Tasty Kitchen version (highlighted by the Pioneer Woman) twice, and both times it was a disaster. I had given up on the so-called miracle of flour-based frostings until I saw and made this latest version.

It left me weak and trembling.

The Best Frosting

And do you know what tops it all? There is a chocolate version. Oh, heaven help me.

I slathered this frosting on the most decadent cake I’ve made to date (posting tomorrow!) and I can’t begin to describe the magical web of fluffy, creamy sweetness that is beholden in this frosting. I am a self-professed frosting hater, which makes my testimonial of this frosting all the stronger. I abhor the greasy, filmy, overly-sugary taste of traditional buttercream. Even the adventurous seven-minute/marshmallow frostings of the world leave me wanting.

But this frosting…well, it belongs in The Best Recipe section no doubt about that. My search for the perfect frosting is over. I’ll be honest, it is a little more work and requires a bit more planning than throwing butter and powdered sugar together in a mixer but I’m promising you here and now that the results are worth every minute. The real issue now becomes making sure any of this frosting actually makes it to the cake before being inhaled by my little lips.

The Best Frosting

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Yield: Makes about 4 cups frosting (plenty for two 9-inch cake layers)

The Best Frosting

Note: this frosting takes a bit of advance planning since the frosting needs time to cool so plan ahead! Originally, I put a note on here that was included in the original recipe that the frosting keeps in the refrigerator and then can be rewhipped, but I had to delete that note because every time I have tried it, it has been a major bust. After I have refrigerated it and rewhipped, it separates and never becomes satiny and delicious again. You may find different results but in good faith I have to say that in my experience, this frosting is best made and used fresh. Finally, I pipe a lot of cakes for my kids’ birthdays (think: Spiderman covered in Wilton stars) and although I haven’t tried it, I highly suspect that an hour or so of chilling time will lend this frosting nicely to being piped. When I try it, because I will, I’ll update the recipe with my notes.

This frosting is so magically delicious, it would be perfect on everything from sugar cookies to pumpkin bars to cake. Options are endless!

Ingredients

  • 1 1/2 cups granulated sugar
  • 1/4 cup all-purpose flour
  • 3 tablespoons cornstarch
  • 1/4 teaspoon salt
  • 1 1/2 cups milk (I used 1% with stellar results)
  • 2 teaspoons pure vanilla extract
  • 24 tablespoons (3 sticks) butter, cut into 24 pieces and softened at room temperature

Directions

  1. In a medium bowl, combine the sugar, flour, cornstarch and salt. Slowly whisk in the milk until the mixture is smooth. Place a fine-mesh strainer over a medium saucepan and pour the milk mixture through the strainer into the saucepan. Cook the mixture over medium heat, whisking constantly, until the mixture boils and is thick enough that it starts to become difficult to easily whisk. This could take anywhere between 5-10 minutes, depending on your stove, heat, etc. It should bubble quite a bit at the end (be careful of the splatters) and thicken considerably.
  2. Transfer the mixture to a clean bowl and cool to room temperature – this is extremely important! If it is even slightly warm, the frosting won’t beat up properly. I refrigerated my initial mixture overnight. If you do this, make sure to pull it out in time to let it warm back up to room temperature. If you try to proceed with the rest of the recipe and the mixture is too cold, the butter won’t absorb into the frosting like it should.
  3. Once the frosting is completely cooled to room temperature (it should have no hint of warmth at all!), beat the mixture with the vanilla on low speed until it is well combined, about 30 seconds (a stand mixer will work best for this). Add the butter, one piece at a time, and beat the frosting until all the butter has been incorporated fully, about 2 minutes. Increase the speed to medium-high and let the mixer work it’s magic. Beat the frosting for five minutes, until it is light and fluffy. Let the frosting sit at room temperature until it is a bit more stiff, about 1 hour. I suspect if you chill it for an hour or so, it would be stiff enough to actually pipe with instead of frosting with a rubber spatula.

Notes

Chocolate Version: Add 1/4 cup cocoa powder to the sugar, flour, cornstarch, salt mixture in the first step. Once the frosting has been mixed for five minutes and is light and fluffy, mix in 3 ounces of semisweet chocolate that has been melted and completely cooled to room temperature.

Note: I made the chocolate version a few days after I originally posted this recipe and it is delicious! The color wasn’t quite as dark as I was hoping for; it definitely made for a lighter-colored chocolate frosting but the chocolate flavor is deep and terrific. I increased the melted chocolate to 4 ounces when I made it and may even do 5 ounces next time.

http://www.melskitchencafe.com/the-best-frosting-ever/

Recipe Source: adapted slightly from Cook’s Country Oct/Nov 2010

679 Responses to The Best Frosting {a.k.a. Magical Frosting}

  1. I think my grandma used to make something like this. It was incredible!

  2. Kim in MD says:

    Thanks to you, Melanie, I am a Cook’s Country subscriber now! I saw this recipe in the latest issue and was hoping you would test it-and you did! I can’t wait to see what cake recipe you paired it with. Thanks so much for sharing! 🙂

  3. Angie says:

    Awe Mel – this recipe came 1 week too late. I was searching for a good frosting recipe for Trevor’s birthday cake last weekend. The one I found was ok, but this one sounds much much better! Guess I’ll just have to try it on Ethan’s cake in October.

  4. Jeanette says:

    i can’t wait to try this. i found a similar recipe on a blog that is written by a professional chef and she too said it was way over the top delicious. thanks!

  5. Stephanie says:

    Ah, this is the recipe my grandmother has been using for over 50 years! It is truly magical. And having messed it up many times, the key is definitely cooking the flour mixture slowly, and letting it cool completely. I’ll have to give it a try with the chocolate!

  6. yay! I love frosting! Although unlike you, I could eat buttercream frosting all day long. That doesn’t mean that I’m not looking for another recipe though – can’t wait to try this!

  7. Marian says:

    Mel, what is the purpose of the strainer? I tried to make your Schoolyard cupcakes without using a strainer, and it was utter disaster. It seems like the strainer wouldn’t make that big of a difference though.

    • Mel says:

      Marian – the strainer should help eliminate any lumps from the frosting. It is fairly important in this recipe, I would say. As for the Schoolyard cupcakes – I’m sorry about the disaster. That frosting has definitely gotten mixed reviews and I’ve been in the process of testing it to figure out the quirks.

  8. Jenn says:

    I make frosting almost identical to this. My only extra is the press the cooked and thickened mixture through a strainer to ensure there are no lumps from the thickener. The best ever frosting hands down!

    • Mel says:

      Jenn – hopefully if the mixture is well strained prior to cooking you won’t need to strain it again – although, I guess I wouldn’t hurt, right?

  9. Kelly says:

    Hmmm….. usually I like homemade desserts much better than store-bought ones. But I have never ever tasted a homemade frosting that I thought compared to Betty Crocker Creamy Deluxe French Vanilla – not the whipped stuff, not Duncan Hines, not the plain vanilla or any other flavor – specifically Betty Crocker Creamy French Vanilla. To me, that frosting is the perfect frosting for a moist chocolate cake – creamy, rich, not too sugary/gritty. I honestly have doubts that this frosting will compare. It sounds like a lot of work too – will my curiosity be enough to convince me to do all this work to try something new? I wish someone else would make it and let me try it lol. If I ever do try it, I’ll come back and let you know what I think.

    (And if anyone is looking for a quick shortcut, please try the Betty Crocker Creamy French Vanilla! …. and I have my opinion about chocolate cake mixes too – if you’re going for a mix, it has to be Duncan Hines Moist Deluxe Dark Chocolate Fudge – again, this specifically – not Betty Crocker, not Devil’s Food Chocolate . Trust me, if you are looking for a quick, store-bought chocolate cake with white frosting, pair these two!)

    • Mel says:

      Kelly – I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on this issue since I have never tasted any canned frosting that compares to homemade (especially this recipe). But having said that, I think it’s great if you’ve found a version that you love because it definitely makes life easier! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

      • Natalie says:

        I just made this to go on your chocolate cake I made last night and it seems to be separating. Ahh! What did I do wrong?

  10. Teresa says:

    Now I have to make a cake today to try this frosting. Like you, I tried the recipe on Tasty Kitchen because it claimed to be the best frosting ever. I was so disappointed! Can’t wait to try your version. Thanks.

  11. Barbi says:

    I thought i was the only one who had issues with that frosting recipe on tasty kitchen/pioneer woman… I look forward to trying this recipe!

  12. Sara Qualls says:

    Do you think this frosting would be good with fresh or frozen strawberries beat into it? I was given the most divine strawberry cake recipe, but the frosting doesn’t do it justice. This frosting you have sounds a bit lighter (you know, 3 sticks of butter makes it lighter) which would be good with the strawberry cake. Their frosting was only butter and powdered sugar. Thanks.

    • Mel says:

      Sara – I think this frosting would be even more magical with strawberries (or strawberry puree) beaten into it. Take care that the strawberries are not overly watery or else it might thin out the frosting too much.

  13. Melanie says:

    Yum, I have been making the Tasty Kitchen version for a few months and fell in love with that frosting! I am excited to try your version. They are similar enough that I know it is going to taste divine!! I can’t wait to try the chocolate version too. Thanks!

  14. Diane Riedel says:

    Thanks for sharing this recipe! Now you have stimulated me to make a cake today! It looks yummy in the photos.

  15. Cammee says:

    I have used the Tasty Kitchen version and we really liked it, but now I’m dying to try this one! I’ll wait for the delectable cake post tomorrow though :).

  16. Liz @ Blog is the New Black says:

    Magical for sure! 😉

  17. Shannon says:

    I’m making my mom your carrot cake recipe this weekend for her birthday. I have only had cream cheese frosting on carrot cake. Would this magical frosting being magical even on that? I trust you…if you say yes then we are going for it! I am also not a typical frosting lover, the canned stuff is fake tasting and usually the other stuff is just not quite right.

    • Mel says:

      Shannon – actually, now that you mention it, yes, this frosting would be divine on carrot cake. I think if you twisted my arm, I’d probably always prefer the classic cream cheese frosting with carrot cake, but this magical frosting is seriously so light and creamy it would taste delicious, also. Let me know if you try it!

  18. Katy says:

    You’ve convinced me; I must try this!

  19. I’ve tried ‘the best frosting’ as well, like many of these other people and was also disappointed. Anytime someone praises something so much I have to give it a try! And this does look really good! Although the picture of it in the bowl kind of looks like mashed potatoes to me hehe.

  20. As a fellow frosting hater, your review sounds great, I bet it is the corn starch that makes this frosting differant. Can’t wait to try.

  21. Melynda says:

    I have had good luck with the “other” recipes for this floating around and used through the years, but this one looks better! I could not longer make the other ones, they had crisco and we have not eaten that in years. Your shared recipe is all butter, thanks.

  22. Andrea says:

    I too was wondering how it would work without a strainer. I don’t even own a strainer, so I’m wondering are there different kinds? (sorry… I have no idea) And if there was one strainer that was a must have in the kitchen- what would it be? Thanks.

    • Mel says:

      Andrea – there are lots of different brands of fine mesh strainers but I got mine at Walmart or Target (can’t remember which one) several years ago. They came in a three pack of different sizes and are made of thin wire with a black plastic handle. I use them all the time – for basic pasta draining to straining puddings/custards/frostings, etc. They are very reasonably priced. If you had to just buy one, I’d get the large-ish size – mine is probably right around 8 inches.

  23. Carrie says:

    On the stand mixer did you use a paddle attachment or a wire whisk/whip attachment?

  24. Shannon says:

    So I made the frosting and I keep licking my fingers – it is so light and fluffy even with so much butter. Yum! But now I’m wondering what would happen to the texture/flavor if I decided to add some cream cheese to it to go on the carrot cake. Although the flavor of this is really good, I too think cream cheese flavor is so yummy with carrot cake. If I softened the cream cheese first and blended it in room temp do you think it would be gross or would it take it to another level? Maybe I’ll just try it and let you know.

  25. Jeanette says:

    made this tonight with the chocolate cake recipe that you posted on 9/24. i made the cake into cupcakes and it worked just fine. it was really good and i really like this frosting for a change. one one cupcake, i sprinkled a little bit of instant espresso granules on top and it was yummy!!! the frosting stiffened up once refrigerated for an hour and i was able to use a 2d wilton tip to make a big swirl on top of the cupcakes. thanks for another winner! 🙂

    • Mel says:

      Jeanette – glad to know the frosting worked well enough to pipe with. I actually made it again this week and piped with it, too, and it worked great. Thanks for your review!

  26. Jeanette says:

    oh, i forgot to ask….should i store the frosted cupcakes in the refrigerator or covered at room temp? thanks!

    • Mel says:

      Jeanette – sorry my response is late on this. I’m glad that you liked the cupcakes and frosting! If it were me, I’d store them covered in the refrigerator. Before serving, I’d let them sit at room temperature for 10-15 minutes to take the chill off.

  27. Leilani says:

    This, too, is my favorite frosting recipe! It is much easier and lighter (at least I think so) than the traditional Italian buttercream. I will definitely try your recipe for accompanying chocolate cake. Congrats!

  28. CaSaundra says:

    Wow! I am definitely bookmarking this recipe. I am not a huge frosting fan either, but this recipe sounds unique so I am going to give it a try!

  29. Reyna says:

    My sister called me yesterday and said, “I have a favor to ask you.”
    “What?” I asked.
    “Mel posted a new frosting and cake recipe–I need you to try it.”
    “Well, for you, I guess I will. Twist my arm….”
    And so out of sisterly duty I made this amazing chocolate cake and frosting. I really don’t even like frosting (except your cream cheese frosting) and I feel sort of neutral about cake, but this frosting (and cake) is in a league of it’s own. It was so amazing. I’m so glad you’ve gone through all the legwork to find “the best”…because I will be looking no further!

    • Mel says:

      Reyna – love the sisterly duty. Will you be my sister, too? I’m with you on the not loving frosting thing so I’m glad this converted you to loving some kind of icing. So glad you liked both recipes!

  30. Tracy says:

    Ok I hate frosting. So when this popped up I made it the same day. I tasted the mixture when cooling, Hmmmm….interesting. I tasted the frosting after whipping in the butter….hmmmm still average. However, when I let it set for an hour and then put in on a chocolate cake…..it was just as you described it. DELISH!!! I don’t know what the waiting had to do with it but everyone who ate the cake thought it was indeed MAGICAL! Thanks!

    • Mel says:

      Tracy – I was reading your comment going, ok, I hope it finally tastes magical…and I’m so glad that whatever the waiting did to the frosting turned it great for you. Thanks for the review!

  31. Susan says:

    Here’s the chocolate frosting to knock your socks off. It was published in a complementary issue of Cuisine at Home to go with an old fashioned chocolate cake. Both recipes have been posted together on Food.com….but it’s the frosting that’s the star in my opinion. The cake? Amazing for a cake with no eggs or dairy.

    http://www.food.com/recipe/old-fashioned-chocolate-cake-with-glossy-chocolate-icing-102587

  32. Mel says:

    Shannon – I think there is actually a cream cheese version of this where you cut the butter down to two sticks and use an 8 ounce block of cream cheese that has been softened and add it to the frosting in pieces with the butter. Since you already made the frosting, it wouldn’t hurt to blend in the cream cheese and see what happens but I’d definitely make sure the cream cheese is very soft and I’d whip it up on it’s own before adding it to the frosting to avoid lumps. Let me know if you tried it!

  33. Adam B says:

    The. Best. Frosting. Ever. Nuff said. I just made it, and had to get on here and say that it is amazing. Thanks for sharing!

    • Mel says:

      Adam B – thanks for your agreement that this really is the best. I was a bit nervous after posting it and issuing my claims that it is the best and has changed my life and yada yada. But I am ecstatic to read that others are loving it as well. Thanks again!

  34. Kristi says:

    I love your blog and I have tried dozens of your recipes. This frosting however seemed wrong to me. It didn’t have much taste to it. To me the frosting on a cake is supposed to make the cake pop. The consistency of the frosting was fantastic, but the flavor was lacking in a major way. Maybe I am too used to my butter cream, sugary frosting. If I make this frosting again I will definitely try adding more sugar.

    • Mel says:

      Kristi – sorry that this frosting just didn’t taste right to you. I’m glad you left the comment, though, because it gives me the chance to clarify that this is definitely not an overly saccharine sweet frosting (which is probably why I like it since the sugary buttercreams aren’t my thing). This frosting is lighter/fluffier and less sweet than many traditional frostings and I love it for the reason that I can still enjoy the cake without being overwhelmed by the frosting. Although I completely understand how all of us have different feelings about our frostings! I think if you dare make it again, you could definitely try adding more sugar – although I don’t know how that would impact texture. Let me know if you try it and thanks again for your comment!

  35. ingrid says:

    I’ve made a flour based frosting before but it didn’t come out quite right. The taste was very good (Kinda like Farina) but it wasn’t frosting-ish. I’m gonna give this one a try.

    I read in the comments about a cream cheese version….hope you’ll update us on that one if you give it a go.
    ~ingrid

  36. Shannon says:

    It’s me again…just giving feedback so others know how it was. I didn’t end up putting cream cheese with it since I already used the 3 sticks of butter, though I may have tried omitting the one stick and adding the cream cheese if I’d seen that suggestion first. So, my mom tasted it and thought it was cream cheese frosting without any cream cheese. I guess I fooled her! Regardless we all loved it on the carrot cake my dad ended up making, which was moist and yummy! Once again two winning recipes.

    • Mel says:

      Thanks for the feedback, Shannon! That’s funny (and wonderful!) that your mom thought it was cream cheese frosting anyway. Makes it easy on you!

  37. Marci says:

    Is this frosting really, really light and buttery tasting? I made a frosting this weekend that was with egg whites and a lot of butter like yours and it was so light it almost tasted greasy. But if you’re convinced this is the best I want to try it.

    • Mel says:

      Marci – yes, this frosting really is light and buttery. It is a completely different texture than egg-white frostings I’ve made before. I hope you like it if you try it!

  38. Linda says:

    I think people are having trouble w/The Tasty Kitchen version simply because they are not cooking the flour-milk mixture long enough nor beating the frosting enough.
    This is an old-time, simple recipe we used to call Poor Man’s Whip Cream Frosting. It has the taste and texture of whipped cream and is definately not a sweet buttercream frosting. The original recipe called for shortening (Crisco), but I make it w/butter instead.

    In a saucepan, gradually add 1 c. of milk to 5 Tbs. flour, stirring to avoid lumps. Bring to a boil, stirring constantly. Lower heat to medium and continue to cook and stir til a thick paste, about 5 min. Cool completely. This can be done ahead of time, placed in small bowl, covered and refrigerated.
    When ready for frosting, remove from frig and bring to room temp.

    Beat 1 c. room-temp butter til light and fluffy, about 2 min. Add 1 tsp vanilla and 1/3 c. regular sugar and beat til well-combined. Add another 1/3 c. sugar and beat, then another 1/3 c sugar (1 c. total). Scrape sides of bowl and beat 2 min.
    Add half of milk/flour mixture and beat well. Add remaing milk/flour mixture and beat 2 more minutes til fluffy and you can no longer feel the sugar if you rub a bit of frosting between your thumb and finger. That’s your Poor Man’s Whipped Cream Frosting!

    If a sweeter, more flavorful frosting is desired, add 1/2 – 1 c. conf. sugar and another tsp vanilla..

    • Mel says:

      Linda – thanks for your comments. As a clarification, this particular recipe that I posted, after boiling the flour and milk, should not be quite as thick as peanut butter as you mentioned in your comment. The consistency of this boiled mixture will be shiny and thick, like a really thick pudding before it has set up. It will take effort to continue whisking it but it shouldn’t be so thick that it masses together in a ball. My issues with the Tasty Kitchen weren’t with the fluffy outcome. It seemed to beat up just fine and work out that way but the texture was grainy and the flavor seemed off somehow. I liked this other version a bit better because of the cornstarch addition because it seemed to take out some of the flour taste/grittiness. You’ll have to let me know if you try the version I posted. If not, it seems like you are quite the expert on your own recipe – glad you love it!

  39. Miss L says:

    My mix is currently cooling, even as we speak. What should it look like while cooling? Mine kinda reminds me of sweetened condensed milk at the moment…thick but kinda could be poured like a glaze (it IS still warm). Is this normal? Should I be panicking yet? Of course, I also used skim milk (it’s what I had), so if it’s supposed to be thicker or pastier (like the Tasty Kitchen version, which I tried and was a huge mess) that may be the trouble. Thanks for any tips!

    • Mel says:

      Miss L – my mixture is the same consistency as what you have described. I’ve made this frosting three or four times now and the first boiled mixture is always thick but if I tipped up the bowl, it would slowly (very slowly) pour out – like a very thick pudding before it has set up. I wouldn’t panic if I were you since it sounds like your consistency is like mine has been. The mixture should be thick enough that it starts to get a bit difficult to wisk it toward the end of the cooking process but it shouldn’t be so thick that it clumps up and is a big mass. Hope that helps. Let me know what the result was!

  40. Linda says:

    It will thicken more upon cooling, but it definately should not be as pourable as a glaze when you finish cooking. It needs to be brought to a full boil, while you cook and stir. The flour will not properly thicken the milk unless it is brought to a full boil, not just a few tiny bubbles around the edge of the pot, but the whole mixture should be bubbling.

    Turn the heat down to medium and cook and stir a minute or two more for good measure.

    You should not be able to pour it into a bowl to cool. You should have to use a rubber spatula to scrape it out. It should be soft and smooth, but thick ……more the consistancy of peanut butter.

    Be sure to cover it as it cools so that it doesn’t develop a hard skin like pudding does if not covered.

  41. Melanie says:

    Just tried this tonight! It tastes awesome! Having tried both the tasty kitchen version and this one, I think that I still prefer the tasty kitchen version. I don’t have a problem with it tasting gritty and it doesn’t have as strong of a buttery flavor to me as this one did, but this recipe is still a keeper! I can’t wait to try the chocolate version!

  42. Jen says:

    I also made the Tasty Kitchen version of this and it turned out a huge flop. I always trust Cooks Country so I’m sure you’ve got it right here!

  43. Karina says:

    this might be JUST what I have been looking for. I have a super delish moist chocolate cake recipe (which I bet rivals yours – I have not tried yours yet so I can’t truly judge – but will soon!) that my husband also loves but he does NOT like my homemade frostings (picky picky) and I cannot STAND store bought frostings. I’ll try this week!!!

  44. Brye says:

    I am so excited to see this recipe and the chocolate cake recipe!! My son turns one on Friday and I wanted to make him a cake and my 3 year old demanded that K wants a choclate cake. I just pulled the cake out of the oven and the frosting is waiting to go on. Can’t wait to try it!!

  45. Morgan W. says:

    So I made the Tasty Kitchen version a few weeks ago and thought it was “so so.” Seriously nothing to write home about. I was sure I did it wrong because everybody raved about it. Then you posted this recipe and I made your version tonight along with your Divine Chocolate cake recipe (though I made mine into cupcakes!).

    I haven’t even frosted them yet but have licked the spoon of the frosting a couple of times. I must be doing something wrong because I think it is rather boring! I hardly taste any of the sweetness. I used canned butter for both. Do you think that makes a difference? The butter smells and tastes the same but I just can’t imagine why I don’t just love it. I love all things sweet, and I usually love all things that other people totally love….so I am afraid I a missing something. Perhaps a 3rd time will be a charm and I will make sure to use freshly store bought butter????

    p.s. The Divine Chocolate Cake IS MOST DEFINITELY AMAZING!! That is a recipe that I will forever hold on to! Thanks! 🙂

  46. Morgan W. says:

    After posting my last comment, I read through a bunch of other’s. Linda (comment #53) helped me realize that I am probably doing it right. I think next time I will add a little more sugar for my taste. Like this recipe needs more calories, right?? 🙂

    Thanks Mel! Love your website!

    • Mel says:

      Morgan – I think you are doing everything right. This is definitely a recipe that is going to either WOW people or leave them wanting for more sweetness. I liked the frosting for it’s mild sweetness but you should try adding more sugar next time. I’m glad you liked the chocolate cake, though! And as for canned butter, I’ve never used it (or heard of it to be honest) so I’m not sure the effect it would have on this frosting. If you have access to regular butter that comes in 1/2 cup sticks, you might try that to see if it helps the frosting’s taste.

  47. Tricia says:

    I just made it, and it tasted…SOAPY? I can’t figure it out because I know I used clean utensils. The prefrosting mix was tasted, and it was OK. Not soapy, not overly sweet. The only thing I can figure is my butter was off? I didn’t actually taste the butter before it went in to the mix. It was in an unopened box, but I’ve had it about a month. Do you recommend unsalted butter? Or, fresh butter?

    I haven’t scrapped it yet. It’s sitting in the fridge, firming up, I’m hoping for some magic!

    • Mel says:

      Tricia – well, I have to say, I never thought I’d hear this frosting described as soapy! I have no idea what might have happened. Butter shouldn’t go bad after a month, but you might check the expiration date to be sure. I always use regular, salted butter. Let me know if the taste manages to change after the sit in the refrigerator!

  48. Tricia says:

    Still not great after an overnight in the fridge. I think it’s better, but my 5 year old is telling me to leave it off the cupcakes! I added some powdered sugar, and I think I will add even more. I think it can be saved. Maybe.

  49. grace says:

    after seeing the version on tasty kitchen, i had my doubts–i’m a skeptical person by nature. however, i find myself believing your assessment of this frosting and am now itching to try it myself! what can i say, melanie, except that you’re worthy of my trust. 🙂

  50. Morgan W. says:

    We moved a couple of months ago and I had LOTS of butter in my freezer. I was too cheap to just throw it away. Honestly, I was too cheap to give it to a neighbor. That is when I canned it to make it “moveable” and it is great! It was super duper easy. Totally google it!

    Once I adjust the frosting with more sugar, I think it will be great. I love texture of it so I am sure that the 3rd time will be a charm!

  51. Mel says:

    Tricia – hope you can save it!

  52. Cristina says:

    Has anyone tried a non-dairy version of this frosting? If so, what modifications did you use? I was thinking of Coffee Rich or soy in place of milk, but have never tried boiling either. And would sub. margarine for butter. Any thoughts?… Need a TNT, non-dairy frosting that is not overly sweet. Taste and quality come first.

  53. Whitney R. says:

    My flour mixture is currently cooling, I’m getting excited!

  54. Tiffiny says:

    Mel I am also very, very picky about frosting. In fact, I usually scrap off most of it when eating any kind of frosted dessert. I hate when it’s too sweet or too gritty. This frosting was neither! It was, as you call it, magical – so smooth, light and fluffy, and not too sweet. This was my first try at homemade icing and it came out perfect! I put it on the Schoolyard cupcakes (which are also awesome, btw). Thanks so much!

    • Mel says:

      Tiffiny – thanks for letting me know you loved this frosting – great idea to use it on the schoolyard cupcakes. I’ll be trying that thanks to your suggestion!

  55. Katie Minharo says:

    For Tricia,

    Try adding salt to help with the soapy flavor. I’ve always had trouble with frosting and recently realized that the answer was more salt. It helps fix weird chemical flavors. Good luck!

  56. Shante says:

    Having tried this last night, and I’m pretty sure I made it correctly, I thought it was so-so. Really I think it’s a matter of preference. I don’t like butter cream, so I thought I would love this, but I didn’t. Everyone else thought it was just ok too. The texture was great, but the taste was lacking for me and I thought it was too buttery. Sorry Melanie, this was the first of your recipes that I haven’t raved about, but everyone has different taste buds. One thing I can’t wait to make are your vanilla pudding cinnamon rolls on Christmas again this year. Those are definitely magical in my family!

    • Mel says:

      Shante – my only wish is that everyone’s taste buds love this frosting as much as I do, considering I make it for everything. But I’m glad you shared your opinion even though you weren’t crazy for it!

  57. Christine says:

    I made this back in December for my daughters 2nd birthday and it was a hit! I made the chocolate version today for my mom’s birthday and it was wonderful!!! My husband has already requested that I make it for his birthday!

  58. Catherine says:

    I have wanted to make this for a long time, but I am gluten-intolerant so the flour was a no-no. Today I made it for my son’s birthday cake, and just subbed cornstarch for the flour (when using flour as a thickener, you can sub half the amount of cornstarch instead) so 5 T. total cornstarch, and it came out perfectly! I could not believe how delicious, how light and fluffy and perfect it was! A lot more work than my standard powdered sugar frosting that I always make, but so much more delicious! Thanks for another great recipe, Mel!

    • Mel says:

      Catherine – look at you getting all brilliant and making this recipe gluten free. That’s awesome! Thank you so much for checking in with your variations…I know it will be able to help others with gluten intolerance.

  59. Amy Wein says:

    Did you ever pipe with this?? I am hitting birthday season here in Minnesota!!

  60. Debbie says:

    I’ve been wanting to try this frosting for months and I finally made it today! It’s soooo good! I don’t like buttercream or gritty/sugary frosting but this was creamy and delicious! Where has this been all my life?! LOL

    I let the frosting chill a little bit in the fridge after the final step. Then I piped it onto red velvet cupcakes. Yum! Thanks for the great recipe!

  61. Stephanie says:

    Oh..my..gaaaah!! I too was left speechless when I tasted this. I just made a batch for my son’s 2nd bday party which is in a couple days. I’ll be making one of your cupcake recipes to put this on top of. I hope it’s just as good after it sits in the fridge for a couple days.

  62. Leticia says:

    ok, I made a comment about the yummy delicious “unbelievable” chocolate cake with ganache and said I would try the magical frosting. Well, my oldest daughter, 11, was the first to taste it while it was in the making process and she said it reminded her of cool-whip but a little firmer. I thought that was a pretty good description. I made the “unbelievable” chocolate cake for my youngest daughter’s 8th birthday last month. I also made the “magical” frosting to go with it and topped it off with ganache….OMG…that was the BEST EVER. The whole family fell in love with the cake combination. Even my babysitter said she had never had cake/frosting that good before. It was chocolately, moist, creamy, rich, and fluffy all in one bite. It wasn’t overly sweet, it was the perfect combination to make your taste buds give you a hug.

  63. Jessi says:

    Hey! When I add the butter I find that the frosting starts to separate. Do you know why this is?

    • Mel says:

      Hi Jessi – that is normal for this frosting. Once the butter is added piece by piece, the frosting will look like it is separating but as it mixes (and it needs to mix for a long time), it will come together. Make sure the frosting base is perfectly cooled before adding the butter. Hope that helps!

  64. Katie says:

    Hi Mel,
    I want to try this frosting, but I don’t need 4 cups. Will it work just as well if I cut the recipe in half?

  65. Ashlee says:

    Now that it’s been a few weeks since making this, I can talk about it. My 3 year old insisted on having a princess birthday cake, so I obliged, thinking I could make it with this frosting. The frosting was so good! I kept snitching at it. I colored it pink, and frosted the princess cake (I piped it and it worked great). I finished the cake completely at 12:30, it was beautiful and finished! Then, at 12:45, before I could even take a picture, the whole thing fell apart. It was so sad! The birthday party was supposed to start at 1:30, so I whipped up a “cake” out of a paper plate stuck on Barbie, frosted it with a can of the nasty store-bought cake, and we blew candles out of that, then I served scoops of my collapsed cake. Everyone thought the frosting was good, the presentation…not so much!

  66. Brooke says:

    I made this today to ice some hummingbird cupcakes and it was amazing! Not to sweet, not greasy.. just great! I did cut out one stick of butter and added 6 oz of cream cheese (I had a partial block in the fridge) so it had just a subtle cream cheese flavor. Also, I refrigerated it for a few hours to pipe it on which worked like a dream too. Thanks for sharing I will be keeping this around!

  67. Lindsay says:

    I, as well, have tried the Tasty Kitchen (PW) recipe and quite liked the taste of it, but it didn’t seem to come together as well as I had hoped. I am intrigued by your recipe (as you have tried the Tasty Kitchen one, too), but I am wondering about the amount of butter this recipe calls for… 3 sticks of butter seems like a lot! Does it have a greasy/filmy/overly buttery taste to it? Also, do you use unsalted or salted butter for the frosting? I am wanting to find a good frosting recipe for a chocolate cake for my husband’s birthday. It really does look great…and any feedback you have would be great! Thanks so much!!

    • Mel says:

      Lindsay – reading through the other comments on this, you’ll notice that there are a fair amount of people that do think it is very buttery. That’s actually what I like about it but it might be a turn off for you. I always use salted butter because I never buy or have unsalted butter on hand. As for storing the frosted cake, I’ve never frosted a cake more than a few hours before serving. The frosting hardens quite a bit in the refrigerator (I’ve noticed with leftovers of the frosting) so I’m not sure you would want to store the frosted cake in the refrigerator. I’m afraid that when it came to room temperature it might separate a bit – which is what I’ve seen happen to the refrigerated frosting leftovers. Hope that helps!

  68. Lindsay says:

    Hmm.. I do have another question, too. After the fact, is it best to keep cakes frosted with this frosting at room temperature or in the fridge for the next few days? Will it ‘hold together’ sitting out on the counter? Thanks for all your help!! =)

  69. Lindsay says:

    Thanks for your feedback! I think I made my question a little confusing… I, too, won’t frost my cake more than a couple of hours before serving, but I was wondering how you store your cakes with this frosting after you’ve had the party and eaten some of the cake. Do you keep the leftover cake on the counter or put it in the fridge?

    • Mel says:

      Lindsay – oh, that makes sense. I usually store the leftovers in a cake cover at room temperature if I think we’ll eat the leftovers within 24 hours. To be honest, we haven’t had leftovers beyond that but if I did, I’d probably put them in the refrigerator after that.

  70. Jill says:

    I have just made the frosting, and I find it very disappointing. I read from someone else that their comment is the same as mine. The butter is separating a lot. I made sure the mixture was completely cooled and I mixed it for 5 min. I let it set for an hour and I also refrigerated it for a time trying to get it to set up and have a little more body to it. I have frosted the cake and it is drooping off and looks separated. What did I miss?

    • Mel says:

      Jill – I have no idea what you missed and I’m not sure why it would be separating. Whenever I make this, it whips together like a fluffy, creamy whipped cream. The temperature of your butter might be an issue (either too cold or too warm) but really, it’s almost impossible to know why it would have separated unless I could be right there with you while you made it. I’m sorry!

  71. Hillary says:

    Hi Mel! I was wondering if this frosting could be made a few days in advance? I’ve actually made it a couple of time already and have had a lot of success with it, but I’ve never tried to store it for any amount of time. Thoughts?

    • Mel says:

      Hillary – I’ve made this frosting in advance, just once, and I have to say the results did not fare well for me. I made it a few days in advance, stored it in the refrigerator and took it out a few hours before to let it come to room temperature. Then I rewhipped it (following the advice of the original recipe) and it completely went grainy and separated on me. I couldn’t ever get it back to the right consistency. You may get different results than me, but that’s my fair warning that making it ahead was a bust – which is a bummer since it would be nice to be able to rely on advance preparation!

  72. Melody says:

    My son’s girlfriend loves chocolate so I made this recipe (along with your dark chocolate cake recipe) for her. Based on past experience, to get that rich dark chocolate taste, I omitted the semi-sweet chocolate in the frosting and substituted 1 cup (instead of 1/4 c.) Hershey’s dark cocoa. Perfect.

  73. Melody says:

    Jill,
    It may be that your butter was too warm. When a recipe calls for ‘room temperature’ butter, it means that you can put an indent into the butter with slight pressure, but it should not be squishy. You should still be able to cut it into separate pieces. If you can’t, it means it’s too warm.

  74. Megan says:

    Oh, the great frosting debate. I usually only comment after I have tried something because when I read comments, I wish I could filter and only read comments of people who have tried the recipe. But I have a few comments to add here. Fr the carrot cake people, mel’s whipped cream cheese frosting would be perfect. I don’t care for it on cookies, but it’s great on bars and cakes. It is truly divine. I made sugar cookies recently and hidden in mel’s recipe for vanilla buttermilk cupcakes is a great buttercream that I love on sugar cookies. I have yet to try this frosting, but last week for my sons birthday I made the monkey cake on our best bites. The cake was a Martha Stewart and I didn’t care for it but the frosting was from our best bites and so good. It’s a chocolate version of this magical frosting but uses chocolate chips to hold it together. Darker chocolate and very tasty. I couldn’t strain mine…it was too thick. Maybe I cooked it too long. Anyway, there’s my 2 cents. Mel, you have the best recipes hands down. I can’t wait to try this…so far I feel like our taste buds are identical. I am sure people send you recipes a lot. I found a focaccia recipe that people have gone nuts over…my husband says it’s the best bread he’s ever had and it’s way easy. I found it in a cookbook when I couldn’t find a focaccia recipe on your site. If you want to try it, let me know. I know a bread recipe is the last thing you want….you have so many winners….but if you want it, I will send it to you. Thanks for making me a cooking star!

  75. Shauntae says:

    I loved the taste of the icing, however I could not get it to set up. I beat the frosting for over 5 mins and let it set for over an hour, but the frosting never set. I used the frosting on the cake but it just ran off the sides. Help please because the taste is amazing. I would love to make the frosting again just need to know what I did wrong.

    • Mel says:

      Hi Shauntae – sorry the frosting didn’t set up for you. The main reason this frosting doesn’t set up is if the base (the mixture that was cooked on the stovetop) didn’t cool completely. I’ve had the same thing happen to me even when that frosting base was just every so slightly warm. It needs to be completely cooled. Other than that, I’m not sure why that would have happened. If you try it again, I hope it sets up perfectly for you!

  76. Melody says:

    I’ve now made this frosting several times and it is *always* much softer than a buttercream. The first time I did this (and I let my frosting cool overnight in the refrigerator and then brought to room temp), I had trouble with my 2nd layer wanting to slide off and the frosting on the top and sides holding on just barely to the top and sides.

    I solved this in follow-up batches by not allowing the frosting to come to room temp completely so it was a bit more solid. Then I frosted the top of the bottom layer and refrigerated it so it would solidify. About an hour later, I removed it, put on the top layer, finished frosting (did refrig. the remaining frosting for 30 min. of that hour) and then stuck it back in the refrigerator.

    This frosting acts more liked a whipped cream frosting which needs to be kept cool and refrigerated.

  77. Casey says:

    Hey!
    I am sorry and I don’t know if you said it somewhere else but I couldn’t find it. What was the cake you made this with? Was it the Divine Chocolate one? This is my first time coming to this site. But I found this recipe through pinterest and it looks great. I am a frosting lover so I am interested to see if I will like this. There is a place here in Tampa, FL that has the BEST cupcakes and frosting but it is the most unusal frosting so I am hoping this one is similiar to it. B/c its very light and buttery though the usually the coat the frosting on the top with the sugar crystal sprinkles. So good… I can’t wait to try this! Thanks Casey

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  79. Mel, can we just adopt you as one of our sisters? I am totally jealous of Erin. Seriously you are amazing! I loved this frosting (and that is understated)! And your vanilla cupcakes are to die for, too. Thanks again for some seriously fabulous recipes.

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  81. Patty says:

    I was sold on this recipe UNTIL I saw it required 3 sticks of butter. 3 sticks?? You have all the fat/oil in the cake and then you slather it was butter?? No wonder you were trembling and weak when eating the frosting… it was probably a mild heart attack. haha

  82. Linda says:

    I tried this frosting recipe yesterday and was disappointed with the results. The frosting literally fell off my cupcakes. I have made other flour frostings where you mix the milk and flour first, cool and then add to the butter/sugar mixture and never had this result. Is it possible to overbeat the frosting?

    • Mel says:

      Hi Linda – sorry this frosting didn’t work out for you. Did the frosting fall off the cupcakes because it was too runny? Yes, you probably can overbeat the frosting but it would probably make the frosting very stiff – is that what happened do you think?

  83. Megan says:

    Oh my. I must say, I am a sweet frosting fan but this, even though it is not sweet, is DIVINE!!! I am putting it on the sisters cafes lindt truffle stuffed cupcakes and I know it will be perfect with the sweetness in the cupcake. This is much easier than a chocolate frosting I tried that has flour in it. It just takes time. Well worth the wait. I am a huge fan and I am sure this won’t help me to not become huge physically but this is worth every calorie and fat gram. Please make a cookbook Mel. I don’t care if every recipe is on your blog I would still buy it! Love everything that comes from your site!!! Thanks a bazillion.

  84. Megan says:

    Mel, may I suggest that you add to this recipe your comment about how I doesn’t work to refrigerate the frosting before piping or spreading this frosting? I had dimmed the comments a week before I made this and must have missed that comment. I was so excited when my frosting worked. It was so tasty and I am glad I indulged myself and had a cupcake with it before I refrigerated the frosting. It was only in the fridge about 5 hours and I tried letting it sit and un-chill and then I rewhipped it….and 🙁 . It does not taste as good as when it was fresh. I am glad I tried it fresh because if I hadn’t, I don’t think I would make this again. For me, I will only use this frosting if I have time to prepare it and serve it fresh. I am taking the cupcakes to my family dinner today but my opinion if it has that much butter in it it has to taste incredible or it’s not worth the calories and fat grams. This stuff is definitely worth it, as long as you eat it when it’s fresh. Thanks for an awesome recipe.

  85. Ann says:

    I have been using your recipes for a long time with great success but have never commented on your site…but after making this frosting I just HAVE to thank you:) I made it with your chocolate cake recipe for my little boy’s birthday but I added chunks of oreos to the cake and then whipped crushed oreos into the frosting. Honestly, I can’t believe any of the frosting actually made it onto the cake! My boys (I have 4 like you) were begging for spoonfuls of it. My husband NEVER eats cake but I made him taste this frosting and he ended up eating 2 pieces! It really is magic! I’m sad for all the commenters who said it didn’t work for them because it is amazing! Thanks.

  86. michelle says:

    Can I freeze the frosting. We are going up north and I want everything already made. This was amazing! I just made it for my son’s 1st birthday party.

    • Mel says:

      Michelle – unfortunately, I wouldn’t suggest freezing this frosting. I’m sorry! I hope you have a way to make it work still. If you DID freeze it and it worked, be sure to let me know! I’m thinking it might have a weird, separated texture if it is frozen and defrosted.

  87. Jaime says:

    This recipe is my favorite! You could also add a little Amaretto Extract to it if you can find any. I have never been able to.

    Yummy Frosting!

    1/2 cup butter and 1/2 cup shortening
    8 oz cream cheese, softened
    (Whip these together very well)

    2 LBS powder sugar
    1 tsp. pure vanilla (not imitation, it makes a big difference trust me)
    1/2 tsp. pure Almond Extract
    1/2 tsp. Coconut Extract

    Add milk to desired consistency, I use about 1/4 cup, or even a little less. Depends on how thick you like it. You can also use coconut milk if you are making coconut cup cakes just make sure to add a little more coconut extract if you do. I personally like it with just regular milk.

  88. Jnl2211 says:

    Oh my gosh! I, like you am a frosting hater. I usually scrape it off to the side, but not any more 🙂 since finding this recipe 3 days ago, I’ve made it with your chocolate cake recipe into cupcakes twice! I’m going to be huge from eating it all the time. It’s hard not to eat 6 cupcakes a day! I’m breastfeeding twins and they get so upset when I eat chocolate but I can’t help it, I’ll deal with gassy babies just to have this frosting on your chocolate cake 🙂 thanks so much for sharing! Btw, my Dh has approved of the both the chocolate cake and frosting too, which is huge because he swore I already had the best recipe!

  89. Jnl2211 says:

    Just an update: I had leftover frosting that I refrigerated for 3 days then took out the morning I needed it and used it about 8 hours later and the texture was perfect, like fresh. I didn’t re-whip it.

  90. Maria says:

    Do you think that this frosting needs to be refrigerated? I made this today for my son’s birthday tomorrow…

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  92. Renee says:

    I made this for a birthday cake recently and it was completely awesome! I doubled the recipe because I was making an 11×15 sheetcake and I wanted to decorate it. I chilled the “decorator” icing for just about 20 minutes and it piped beautifully. I even had some leftover. Bummer! 😉 This will definitely be a go-to recipe for me in the future. I made a half chocolate-half red velvet cake and it was awesome on both. I am pretty sure it would make cardboard taste good. Thanks for the recipe!

  93. Kristen says:

    Hi Mel!!
    My son and daughter both share the same birthday, it is on Sat. Oct 1st. I was going to make the unbelievable chocolate cake for my son, and do your vanilla buttermilk cupcakes for my daughter. I want to use this frosting for both the cake and cupcakes. I take it I have to double the recipe for this frosting to have enough to frost the cake and cupcakes right? Also, their party is on Sat. at 1:00. Would it be best to make the frosting in the morning that day or the night before? Thanks in advance!!!

  94. Mel says:

    Hi Kristen – sounds like a fun birthday bash! In answer to your question, yes, I would double the recipe. I have a feeling you’ll have some leftover but I don’t think one batch will be enough to do both the cake and cupcakes. I haven’t had great success making this frosting in advance, although several other commenters have said it works just fine to make it the night before. If you have the time, I would say make it the morning of for the best results. Good luck!

  95. Jnl2211 says:

    To save time, I’ve made the flour mixture the day before with great success, that way you only need to beat the butter in, instead of having to wait for it to cool.

  96. May Hen says:

    I’ve made this frosting twice. I made it yesterday and it was gobbled up by my co-workers in less than 2 hours. I had to make another cake for today because I was craving a slice so badly.

    I absolutely love your recipes and have placed you in my permanent read section! Your version of this frosting (adding the sugar in the cooking process) is fantastic and eliminates a good step that would probably make the icing grainy if added after the cooking process. I really really really appreciate your tips and side notes and updates. Keep up the great work or I’ll wither and die into a crumpled mess of flour and sugar!

  97. Ruby says:

    Hi, I’m thinking of putting this frosting on cupcakes, but you mentioned that it doesn’t really hold up when piped? would it be firm enough to make swirls on cupcakes like regular buttercream? Thanks a lot!

    • Mel says:

      Ruby – I think the frosting is a bit harder to pipe if doing fine details, but I’ve used it to pipe large swirls on cupcakes and it works great.

  98. Ruby says:

    Hi, I’d like to put this frosting on cupcakes, but you mentioned that its consistency might not hold up being piped like a regular buttercream(?). Would it be too soft to create swirls on cupcakes? Thank you!

  99. Ruby says:

    wao sorry, didn’t see your response. Thanks a lot! (running to the kitchen!:))

  100. jackie says:

    So, I love this frosting as much as you do 🙂 I plan on using it this weekend on cupcakes – have you ever ended up piping with it and, if so, did it work? Also, can you add food coloring to this one? I’m going back and forth between coloring it and just using colored sugar on top . .. I don’t want to mess up the consistancy of the frosting.

  101. jackie says:

    I did just see in the comments (should have read some of them first) that you said it does work to do the piping on the cupcakes; do you have an opinion on adding food coloring?

    Also, the last time I made this frosting – I didn’t want to frost all of the cupcakes at once since it was just for my family. I just kept the frosting in the fridge and we used it when we wanted a cupcake. It stayed perfect; like it was fresh but I did not re-whip it. It was hard to spread being that it was firm and cold though!

    • Mel says:

      Jackie – I’ve never added food coloring to this frosting…I think it might work although I would add it right at the end of whipping so the frosting doesn’t get overwhipped. My only concern is since the frosting is so buttery, with coloring, I”m wondering if the color will fully absorb or if it will look grainy?? Not sure, but it’s worth a try. Let me know how it goes if you try it out!

  102. Ron says:

    I’m trying this for the first time and I cooked it for quite sometime and it started to catch on the bottom (will use a double boiler next time), and mine also is the consistency of condensed milk. Could this recipe work with 2 cans of condensed milk or do you need the thickening cornstarch and flour mixture to set up the frosting?

    • Mel says:

      Ron – I’ve never tried it with the sweetened condensed milk so I’m not sure about the answer. My inclination is to think that the frosting needs the cornstarch and flour to thicken and whip properly.

  103. Jnl2211 says:

    Oh my gosh! I tried this recipe with brown sugar on carrot and banana cupcakes, delicious!

  104. Jnl2211 says:

    Oh, I’ve added food coloring plenty of times and it works beautifully! I add it at the end of whipping. I’ve used this for piping all my cupcakes and it pipes and holds forever! I also live in Alaska though so no worry about it being too hot 🙁

  105. Jen says:

    I made this frosting for my sisters birthday last night. As I was adding butter I was taste testing. I also had my daughter get in on the action. We only used 2-1/2 cups butter and added 1/2 cup powdered sugar at the end. My sister and everyone at her house raved about the frosting. It will be my go to frosting (and my sisters too) from now on. Thanks.

  106. Jen says:

    Oops sorry, I meant 2-1/2 sticks of butter, not 2-1/2 cups. Yikes!

  107. Pam says:

    Thanks for the recipe. My husband and I don’t usually like frosting either. But we had to make cupcakes today for my daughter’s birthday and we loved this. It is so light and creamy, not greasy, and it tastes like Whipped Cream Frosting. I agree with others who said that the flavor seemed to improve even more after sitting about an hour. And I didn’t have any milk in the house, so I used Almond Breeze Almond Milk – unsweetened vanilla, and it was wonderful.

  108. Shannon says:

    So yummy!! I made the chocolate version to go along with your chocolate cake recipe! I am never disappointed when I make your recipes 🙂

    This is my go to recipe website!

  109. Kristy says:

    I loved this buttercream- it was definitely a hit. I had a little trouble piping it though. Any suggestions for getting the right firmness for piping? Thanks.

  110. Mel says:

    Kristy – I usually have to refrigerate it a little longer to pipe it. It definitely is on the softer side, though.

  111. ROSA says:

    I made it last night for a wonderful chococalte cake. It is awesome. Still I feel I don’t reach the perfect moist, but will work on it. Thanks for your tips!

  112. Robin says:

    What a wonderful find! I’ve made this twice now, and used it on my chocolate cupcakes as the final, beautiful counterpoint to the ganache I’ve dipped the cupcakes in. I think I may tweak just slightly with a pinch of salt next time, since I use unsalted butter, but I can’t really imagine it being much better. I use the chocolate cake recipe with the buttermilk and the cocoa, and put a Hershey’s kiss in the center. I think maybe I swiped the idea from the Pioneer woman, but your icing makes it the bomb!

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  114. May says:

    I am making the frosting for the first time as vanilla. I’ve been using cocoa powder to turn it into a deliciously milky chocolate frosting and can’t pull myself away from it. I just tasted the vanilla frosting and it holds true to the magical words. I don’t use a strainer and just dump it all in the pot and use all flour cause i forgot the cornstarch the first time and didn’t notice a difference… Soo good!

  115. Carol says:

    I have tried this 3 times and failed. The sugar in the blend scorches before it gets thick. I wisk constantly over med to low heat. It never gets near as thick as I know it should. I thought perhaps there was a typo in the milk amount. What might I be doing wrong? H-E-L-P!!! It looks great in the pics!

  116. Jnl2211 says:

    That’s weird, I even leave mine unattended for a bit and mine never scorches. Don’t give up, this is th best frosting ever!

  117. Mel says:

    Carol – what type of pan/pot are you using? Is it really thin on the bottom? I’ve never had trouble with this scorching but I use a heavy-bottomed pot (nothing extravagant or expensive but definitely not thin aluminum). That would be my main guess if you are whisking constantly over heat that isn’t cranked up too high.

  118. Carol says:

    I have RevereWare, so I’m guessing it is not the pan. It took about 20 minutes to get to a reasonably thick gravy-like texture. I will purchase some whole milk and try that. (I also used 1%) The only other thing I can think of is my cornstarch. I’ve had the same box for quite some time. Does it ever really go “bad”? I just got thinking about that.

  119. Mel says:

    Carol – hmmm, I’m not sure about cornstarch going bad but since it is fairly inexpensive, it may be worth picking up a new box and trying it, although I’m not sure why it would contribute to the sugar scorching. Good luck!

  120. Ron says:

    Note to Carol….I had the same problem…..solution…..DOUBLE BOILER! Has been great ever since. Once it thickens I put it in an icebath to cool it down and it’s ready to use in less than 15 minutes. Thanks again Mel….great frosting!

  121. Carol says:

    Thanks for the tip, Ron. I will try my double boiler next time. Mel, I just replaced my cornstarch today (just in case that was a contributor), so I’m good to go! Perhaps I’ll get a chance to give it another shot next week! Crossing my fingers! 🙂

  122. EnajCosta says:

    Hello. My name is Enaj. I have just met you, and I love you 🙂

    I found your site through Annie’s Eats and started browsing through your recipes. When I stumbled across this one, I was skeptical. Like you, I hate butter-based frosting (always too greasy, always too sickly-sweet). “Magical Frosting?” Not likely, I said. But, I swear, the absolute moment I put a finger-full of this heavenly stuff on my tongue, I was hooked. Goodbye cream cheese frostings, goodbye substandard buttercreams, this is my new go-to frosting recipe.

    I’m actually quite embarrassed to admit this, but, I made this frosting to go with your “Unbelievable Chocolate Cake” and I am, at this very moment, waiting for it to cool to room temp. to be frosted. That’s right, this frosting tastes so incredible that I couldn’t even wait to put it on the cake before commenting on how much I love it. It’s perfectly sweet and flavorful and silky smooth.

    This is the first of your recipes that I’ve tried and, I guarantee, it will not be the last. Let me say again, I love you … and this frosting.

  123. Karen says:

    Delicious! I made this for the first time today. I was nervous because my milk mixture didn’t thicken very much, or not as much as the recipe seems to say. However, i let it cool completely, and whipped in margarine (had this one hand, instead of butter) and it light, fluffy, and delicious!! I also put it in the fridge and it thickened more, so expect it will be great to pipe (haven’t tried that yet). Don’t be intimidated by this recipe- it works!! 🙂

  124. Hilary says:

    My middle son (6 years) just requested this for his birthday, – “no cake Mama, just this frosting”. And I agree – a keeper for sure!! 🙂

  125. Ann says:

    Could you give me this recipe cut in thirds? Like using 1 stick of butter not 3..and so on.
    Thank you!

  126. Mel says:

    Hi Ann – I wouldn’t recommend cutting this recipe into thirds…it is definitely best made with the full batch. I’ve had funny things happen to it when I’ve tried to cut it down. If you really want to try, you’ll have to figure out the math on the ingredients – I don’t want to mess it up for you. Good luck!

  127. gina says:

    Hi Mel! I’m new here, I discovered your wonderful site a few days ago. I plan to make the chocolate version of this magical frosting on Friday but I have a question. After melting the chocolate and waiting for it to come to room temperature, will it harden again once it reaches room temp? Should I just wait until it is cool to the touch?
    Thank you for any advice!

  128. gina says:

    I’m also wondering if you would recommend halving this recipe? I was going to try out two chocolate frosting recipes on Friday to compare chocoalteyness and I would prefer not to have a huge amount leftover.

  129. Mel says:

    Hi Gina – the chocolate shouldn’t harden if it is being cooled just to room temperature…I think we are thinking the same thing – “cool to the touch” is another indicator the chocolate is ready to be used. You just don’t want it warm at all or it will melt the frosting. Also, I mentioned in a comment above that I haven’t had the best success halving this recipe – it didn’t quite work out. You might have different results so I’ll leave it up to you whether you want to halve it but my recommendation would be to stick with the full recipe if you want “true” results. Good luck!

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  131. Cherry says:

    Hello Mel, I just made this frosting earlier today for the first time with chocolate cake and it was really delicious. I added 2 sticks of butter and 8 ounces of cream cheese as I wanted to make it less buttery and it was perfect. I had no problems with the frosting separating or not working except for waiting for the flour mixture to cool down! It is really the best frosting and magical which will become my go-to frosting now instead of the meringue-based buttercreams or the overly sweet traditional icings. Thanks so much for sharing this recipe!!

  132. sara says:

    I wanted to add that I thought this had flopped because it looked like it was starting to separate after beating for 5 mintues…however, I placed it in the frig and it totally stiffened up perfectly. And the taste is amazing…so don’t throw it out too soon!

  133. Rohini says:

    I am new to baking, when you say 1 1/2 cups milks are you referring to the liquid measuring cup or the usual measuring cup which is used to measure the flour? Thanks !

  134. Mel says:

    Rohini – I measure the 1 1/2 cups milk in a liquid measuring cup.

  135. Rohini says:

    I am a butter cream hater and I have spent ending hours on the internet searching for a good substitute.. I had bookmarked this recipe for a while and I made it 2 days back and it was truly MAGICAL!!! Thank you very much Mel for sharing this great recipe with all of us!!!

  136. cw says:

    This is the traditional red velvet cake frosting old timey Southern cooks used to use. I made it and it came out perfectly. When I achieved full large boiling bubbles the frosting suddenly completely thickened. I let it fully cool, and the butter was completely room temp. I was surprised at how quickly the butter incorporated because I had tried Swiss meringue in the past with disastrous results.
    Next time I am going to try partial cream cheese b/c that sounds really good.

  137. Rachel says:

    Well, having made this already three times I thought I would add to the comments. The comments helped me decide to make these and I appreciate them and enjoy reading through them. I too started with the PW’s recipe but ended up with lumpy frosting so I googled that and got your blog page about it. Your frosting is much tastier and the people I served it to were quite impressed. The only thing I can add or reiterate (if anyone will read this far) is to cover the flour mixture with plastic wrap while it cools so it doesn’t get the “skin” on it. Thanks so much for this recipe!

  138. Laura in OH says:

    Made the chocolate version for my son’s “football” birthday cake. I added brown food coloring to make it darker and used 5 oz. dark/semisweet combination for the added chocolate. Received rave reviews!

  139. Laura in OH says:

    Oh, and I sped up the cooling process by placing the bowl over a bowl of ice water.

  140. patintx says:

    Mel…..this is my all time favorite frosting and has been for YEARS! This frosting is the classic one for Red Velvet Cake…..but recently I’ve noticed that people use a cream cheese frosting for it. In my (and my family and friend’s) opinions, this is the best!

  141. Rohini says:

    Is there any way to make this frosting stable enough to decorate cake? Will adding some shortening help?

  142. Mel says:

    Rohini – do you mean making it stable enough to pipe with? I’ve piped with it several times and while it is on the softer side, it still manages star tip and other fine tips well enough (although isn’t stiff enough in my opinion for extravagant roses or other flowers). I don’t think adding shortening will help it stiffen more – perhaps powdered sugar or just extra time chilling in the refrigerator.

  143. Sam says:

    Hi
    Would love to give this ago… But wanting to put it under Fondant on a cake not cupcakes…. Has anybody tried this? Or would you think it being too soft to go under Fondant? (Don’t want it to slide off!!)

    Thanks

  144. May says:

    I would like to let you know you have this frosting recipe down to a T. I’ve made it several times over the past 6 months and it gets rave reviews. The thickness of the cooked ‘batter’ has varied for me but it always seems to still turn out great. It’s my favourite frosting in the world and I am also not a big frosting fan. I love this and your pretzel recipe so much. Please keep up the excellent work, my co workers and tastebuds thank you, my thighs curse you hehehe…

  145. Abby says:

    Hey Mel,
    I am getting ready to make this and the unbelivable chocolate cakef or my boyfriend college gtaduation this saturday and I was wondering for the chocolate version do you still add the vanilla?

  146. Mel says:

    Abby – yes, I still add the vanilla with the chocolate version.

  147. Shannon says:

    Hi there,
    Just a suggestion for the chocolate version, I grew up with my mom making a version of this frosting. She made the best chocolate frosting. I still don’t have the full recipe but it is similar to this one. If you’d like a suggestion to making the chocolate version darker and more chocolate-y then replace the milk with chocolate milk!! I promise. It will give you the desired effect and you will love it even better!

  148. Abigail says:

    hi, this looks great and i can’t wait to try as an alternative to overly sweet fatty icing recipes. is there any way you can convert the recipe to weighed measurements? i find american cup sizes are different to europe and don’t want to ruin the ratio of quantities (eg how much is a stick of butter?). would be much appreciated as i will be guessing and ‘googleing’ otherwise!

  149. Mel says:

    Hi Abigail – I am far from an expert on converting to weighted measures. You should probably trust a google search more than my attempt…sorry I can’t be of more help!

  150. Tina says:

    This is the best frosting ever. I use it on my red velvet cake all the time and it is always a favorite. You are right it doesn’t whip well the next day or after it has been frozen, I tried that at Christmas. I will have to try the chocolate version though.

  151. Katree Tree says:

    Hi! This recipe looks amazinggg!!! However, after I spread it on a layered cake, can I refrigerate the cake, or will the frosting harden and turn yucky? Should this frosting be kept at room temp?

  152. Sarang says:

    I tried to make this just tonight, and I can’t get it right. I followed instructions to the t, and on the stove, it just wont harden. i tried hand whisping, machine whisping for 20 minutes.. i can’t figure it out :/
    im not much of a baker, maybe thats why :/
    please help, im having a party soon and id like to test/master this before then! 🙂

  153. Mel says:

    Hi Sarang – without actually being in your kitchen with you, I can’t be sure of exactly what happened, but one thing to make sure of is that the stovetop mixture cools completely before whipping the frosting with butter. That’s usually the main reason the frosting won’t whip and become stiff. I’m sorry it didn’t work out!

  154. Mel says:

    Katree – I frost cakes with this recipe and then refrigerate them and it works just fine as long as I take the cake out of the refrigerator 3-4 hours before I want to serve it. It can also be kept at room temperature for, I’d say, up to 8 hours without refrigerating.

  155. Marcy Helgeson says:

    I never have time to cook and am not very good at it, but I tried this frosting. It turned out GREAT the first time! It is delicious! My husband always wants the whipped frosting when I buy birthday cakes from Walmart (yes, I am usually too busy to cook them) and now that I have make a cake with this frosting, he told me to never buy another one. What have I gotten myself into? If I can do it, anyone can do it, just be sure to follow the directions precisely. Thank you for sharing!

  156. Amber says:

    I just made the frosting tonight & after reading the comments about having a problem with the lack of thickening on the stove I found a solution that worked for me. I had the burner on med-hi heat and whisked for 10 minutes but it was just as one described (like gravy) and not thick at all. I went back and noticed that Mel said it should be boiling. So I upped the heat to high until it started to boil, constantly whisking. As soon as it started to boil, I turned down the heat to med-hi and then it was within a few minutes it was thick like paste! It worked great. I thought my observation might help another. {By the way, the frosting tastes and looks AMAZING!!! Thank you so much!!!}

  157. Ann says:

    Do you think using a gluten free flour blend would be a workable substitute?

  158. Mel says:

    Ann – I don’t know since I’m not very familiar with gluten-free substitutes. Let me know if you try it and how it works out!

  159. stephanie hanson says:

    My friend kimmie told me about this site after she made this frosting for her sons 1st birthday party yesterday and i was phenominal! she is a journalist for our Journal Gazette news paper and has a blog, she is always trying new things to share with her readers and this recipe is great! shell actually be on the today show with Kathy lee tomorrow (monday 7/9) talking about it so anything she recommends to us we all try and usually love!

  160. laynieloo says:

    Can i pipe this on cupcake? Would it hold the swirl?

  161. Mel says:

    laynieloo – yes, I’ve used this piping for cupcakes and cakes.

  162. Veronica says:

    Do you have to mix the flour, sugar, and cornstarch, and milk separately and strain into the pan before cooking? What difference does this make? I’m so tempted to just mix them together in the pan and cook!

  163. Mel says:

    Hey Veronica – I’ve never NOT strained it so I’m not sure if it would be prone to more lumps or not. If you try it without straining let me know the results!

  164. dee says:

    I found this recipe on Pinterest….WOW! Looks so good — BUT seriously — 3 sticks of butter?????????????? WOW!

  165. Christy says:

    This is very similar to my mom’s recipe, which is amazing! I will have to try yours, though, because my mom’s always comes out a bit lumpy no matter how much we beat it, and I think it might be the idea of letting it come back to room temp after cooling it…? I will try yours and see if the differences in your process correct the lumpiness, and maybe I can use it to adapt my mom’s recipe. Thanks so much!

  166. Trisha says:

    To me, this tastes more like whipped butter than frosting. I can see why you non-frosting lovers like this. I might like it on a dinner roll or some pancakes, but it was sort of sickening on my chocolate cupcakes. Loved the light whipped consistency of the frosting, but I prefer a sweeter taste. I might try the chocolate or cream cheese version. Also, I did not find this frosting to be easy to pipe with. Hope this helps!

  167. KP says:

    I was going to try this recipe a couple of months ago but have put it aside. I’ve tried 15 or so other buttercreams since then with never having complete satisfaction. I’m kicking myself for not trying this earlier and saving a ton of time and ingredients but this recipe is absolutely perfect for anyone that finds any American Buttercreams to be too sweet! Seriously amazing! You will not be sorry for making this!

  168. This was great!!! My friend and I JUST made this frosting and were quite amazed at the whole process. When we first mixed the milk mixture in the saucepan and it thickened, it got a little scary haha. It was an almost translucent, gelatinous glob of really, reallllly thick pudding. After it cooled, we found that really soft butter was great to more easily incorporate it into the “gelatin”. We weren’t sure how what we were seeing in the mixer was going to transform into the fluffy frosting in your pictures but it did! This is definetly a unique frosting. Ours tasted like a vanilla ice cream, very different, but in a very good way. We didn’t have cornstarch so we subsituted a bit of the granulated sugar for powdered sugar (because we thought powdered sugar containted some cornstarch already) and then added a tbsp. of flour. Once again, it turned out beautiful and this recipe is defintely going to be a go-to frosting and replace my buttercream for most cupcakes :).

  169. marla says:

    This is the frosting that my Mom puts on her red velvet cake. Makes the cake!! Cream cheese frosting aint got nothin’ on this!! LOL

  170. Rachel says:

    Have you tried this with espresso powder instead of cocoa? I’d like to try chocolate stout cupcakes with this frosting, and think espresso flavored would be the bomb.

  171. Mel says:

    Rachel – I’ve never tried it with espresso powder. Good luck if you do!

  172. Liselle says:

    O*M*G !!!!
    Thats about it.
    Do not doubt this, it is worth the time.

  173. Allicia says:

    I had a devil’s food cake mix in my pantry for a while, and this morning, I decided to make it. However, I the only frosting I had in my pantry was a can of store bought chocolate that was extra from my son’s construction truck birthday cake. So I went online to see if I could find a recipe for a quick and easy frosting (since chocolate frosting is usually not so great), and I stumbled upon your blog and this recipe. OH MY GOD. This is so good. I didn’t have the vanilla extract, so I substitued coconut, and it turned out awesome. It is light and airy, and not too sweet. I ate TWO pieces of cake in one sitting, and I am having to use my willpower not to go back for another. This frosting is so good that I am going to bake another cake this weekend for my mother’s birthday, and I’ll try it with the vanilla! Thank you so much for sharing this recipe. I can’t wait to see what else I can find in your archives. 🙂

  174. Lisa says:

    Oh, I *so* wanted to love this frosting recipe, but I’m sorry to say, it was a failure. It did set-up and whip up just fine, and I did let it “rest” for at least an hour before using it for cupcakes. Unfortunately, the flour and cornstarch do leave a tiny bit of a “dough” taste, and it’s quick to separate. I piped some billowy clouds on the cupcakes, and then watched the frosting slide off before I could even open the refrigerator. I am a pretty skilled cake baker and frosting maker, I have tried them all! My favorite will always be a French butter cream, it’s not that hard to make, the science behind it is solid (and it’s great for piping and decorating)…and you cannot beat the taste! So smooth and creamy and buttery, not too sweet.

    Sorry my review isn’t more favorable, but I will certainly try other recipes here!

  175. Bec says:

    Hi Mel

    Is this frosting a particly easy frosting to frosts cakes with ? as it looks quite light and fluffy , would it be good to crumb coat a cake with.

  176. Veronica says:

    Another question…how does this hold up over time? Have you ever had leftovers to judge how it does the next day? Or if you refrigerate the cake and then bring it to room temp? I’m considering this frosting for use on cakes I’m turning into the fair but need one that’s pretty stable.

  177. Veronica says:

    Oops, I meant how does it do over time while on the cake. I would be using it right away but the cake wouldn’t be judged for 24+ hours.

  178. Jnl2211 says:

    Don’t mean to “barge” Mel, but I might be able to help. This frosting holds extremely well if outside temperatures aren’t too hot. I live in Alaska and it holds it’s shape and pipes beautifully on cakes and cupcakes. I’ve left mine for 2 days and it was still pretty. The problems people are having with the frosting sliding off or melting are because of the heat. This is an all butter recipe so it’s a bit more temperamental. It’s been between 70-80 degrees and it’s just fine. I don’t like the flavor after its been piped or frosted then Brought back to room temp. Good luck!!

  179. Mel says:

    Thanks for helping, Jnl2211! I agree, this frosting pipes beautifully on cupcakes and cakes (in my opinion) but it doesn’t fare that great in really hot temperatures. Bec, for your specific question, I have used this as a crumb coat and then a final coat of frosting.

    Veronica – I agree with Jnl2211, this frosting tastes better fresh but if you are going to frost the cake and then have it judged 24 hours later, I would try keeping it at cool room temperature instead of refrigerating. It will help the frosting stay light and fluffy and taste more fresh than going from refrigerator to room temp again. Good luck!

  180. Bec says:

    Thanks guys 🙂 will try and see

  181. Marisa says:

    This frosting turned out amazing! I find the sweetness level perfect! I also made the frosting from Tasty Kitchen, it did not turn out well for me, and I found it a little on the sweet side. After the disaster with the Tasty Kitchen frosting I found this one, I will be using this to frost some Red Velvet Cupcakes I made. Thanks for a great recipe!

  182. Veronica says:

    Thanks for your help Mel and Jnl2211! I’m not sure if this will work for me since I have to travel an hour to deliver and the car might be too hot. I will just have to try it at home for my own enjoyment! 🙂

  183. Denise says:

    I have always used buttercream frosting, but wanted to try something different. I hate to say this but I was definitely not wowwed by this recipe. At first it seamed to have an almost custard like taste to it, like it belonged inside a cream puff. But, after frosting a cake for my husband’s birthday, I decided to scrape it all off after my friend took a swipe and declared, “It tastes like popcorn.” So I tried it again and we decided it tastes just like Jelly Belly Popcorn Jellybeans, which, unfortunately is my least favorite of the Jelly Belly varieties! I will say, however, that the texture was amazing!

  184. penny says:

    Denise- the better the quality of butter u use n it wont have the artificial butter taste of the jelly beans. Hope this helps! God bless.

  185. Jnl2211 says:

    I agree Penny. I had a friend try the recipe and it was AWFUL!! Come to find out she used a mixture of margarine and store brand butter. Yuck!

  186. Veronica says:

    I wonder if some have used margarine instead of real butter. My parents in law insist that margarine IS real butter so apparently not everyone knows there’s a difference. And Mel, I was wondering if you used salted butter here or unsalted? I always use unsalted and wonder if those thinking it tastes like popcorn might have used salted butter, making it too salty. Or it might just be a preference for a less buttery frosting.

  187. penny says:

    I always use butter such as Keller’s or crystal farms. I. Going t
    o try Plugra fancy butter next time to see how awesome it can be
    Not 2 sure if a higher fat content butter will make it not set up so nicely
    I wish it was a littel more thicker to hold up for baking at a fair. O have found if you make sure the flour mixture is completely cool not 1 bit of warth and then with the mixer paddle attachment at the room temperature butter with cut up into small pieces very slowly 1 piece at a time mixing very carefully in between each piece of butter n you have to let it sit for a good time but I usually let it sit for about 2 hours for icing on the cake

  188. Mel says:

    Veronica – I use salted butter because I’m too lazy to buy unsalted but that could make a difference if someone had an ultra refined palettes which I do not. 🙂 The thing with this frosting is that people either love it or hate it. I think it really boils down to a texture/taste preference. I agree that good quality butter (never margarine!) makes all the difference and the expectation that it is a very light, buttery frosting.

  189. Heather says:

    This is the recipe my grandma made for years and years and it is wonderful. However, I don’t have a stand mixer so it can get tiring making it! I have begun using very fine granulated sugar instead of the regular sugar. I also, unlike Mel, only have unsalted butter not salted, so always use that. Enjoy the icing, all. It is amazing!

  190. Summer says:

    Has anyone tried this recipe with alternatives to dairy? My daughter has food allergies so I have to get creative. I have dairy free butter which is always amazing. I just wonder which milk alternative might work best. Thanks for any input!

  191. Kate says:

    I made this today for my boyfriend’s father’s birthday cake, and it was fabulous! I’m not really a baker-of-cakes, but I do like to cook from scratch, so… I gave it a shot and it was wonderfully successful. I added half a vanilla bean during the cooking phase and then skimped on the extract a little bit, and I used two sticks of unsalted butter and on stick of salted butter. I also didn’t strain it before cooking, but I just kept whisking it and there were no lumps. It was just the right level of sweetness for the very dark chocolate cake I put it on. Thank you so much!

  192. Kandy says:

    This is very close to the classic Red Velvet Frosting, using a paste made of flour and milk. The trick is to beat it until it is like whipped cream. An awesome frosting.

  193. Sophie says:

    Great recipe!!!! I’m a pre-teen and with this great website, even I made this awesome frosting successfully!
    Thanks a lot, Mel

  194. Meg C says:

    This is a fantastic recipe. I’ve been making it ever since I found it on Pioneer Woman’s website. Every time I make it people rave! 🙂

  195. Tasha says:

    I never comment on anything, but I just wanted to tell anyone worried about this frosting starting to separate when whipping in the butter to just keep whipping!! I had made the chocolate version of this before and it was AMAZING! It matched the flavor of my chocolate cake perfectly. I decided to try the original version tonight because my boyfriend wanted a white frosting with the chocolate cake this time. I was about to toss it but thought, “Well if it’s ruined it can’t hurt to keep whipping”. So I whipped it on high, and then it just came together. Perfect consistency. Although, I do think it’s a bit too buttery it is SO much better than buttercream, and the flavor gets better as it sits…but the chocolate version? Perfection! Thank you so much for this amazing recipe!

  196. Kayla B says:

    Hi Mel.
    I’m making this Magical Frosting as we speak. I’m very excited to see how it turns out! I am making a guitar cake for my Dad’s 50th Birthday and I was looking for a delicious frosting, and after stumbling across yours I decided to give it a go!! I am planning on putting fondant over the chilled iced cake, do you think it will work fine?

  197. Korinne says:

    The first time I made this frosting I was in love. After that is was just okay as on a cupcake I thought it was a touch bland BUT I recently put this on a Red Velvet cake with a Cheesecake center and it was the best complimenting frosting I could ever have imagined. It really brought out the flavor of the actual cake instead of being overpowering. I will always use this for my Red Velvet cakes.

  198. Kayla B says:

    Just wanted to say that this is now my “go to” icing as well! Everyone loves it! and my Dad’s cake turned out perfect, I simply refrigerated the iced cake before I put on the fondant. Thanks Mel for this amazing recipe!!!

  199. Sumaiya says:

    Hi Mel!
    Is it okay if I half your recipe? I want to pipe rosettes over 12 cupcakes, and I don’t want to waste any! Also, will the frosting be alright if I pipe it on the cupcakes and leave it overnight in the fridge?

  200. Luna says:

    So… does this pipes ? I want this for delicious and BEAUTIFUL cupcakes…. so?… IT WORKS???

  201. Shelley says:

    Hi Mel – just wanted to see if you’ve done any piping with this? You mentioned that you would update, so I wanted to check and see if this is still your go-to frosting for everything. Thanks!

  202. Jnl2211 says:

    This pipes beautifully!!! And it also takes to food coloring very well.

  203. Crika says:

    Oh my goodness! I made this for my husband’s birthday cake yesterday, and it was amazing! I made a Chai Spice version….I almost ate the bowl full after the first boiling step!!! lol Everyone loved it, but I will say it makes a lot more frosting than I would normally need, I think next time I’ll try a half batch. 🙂

  204. Mel says:

    Shelley – yes, I’ve piped with it and it works great!

  205. erica says:

    Hi! will this frosting hold up in warm weather? 🙂 thanks!

  206. Tricia Wilke says:

    Do you use real butter for the magical frosting, and if so, salted or unsalted? And, did you ever try piping/decorating with it?
    Thanks!

  207. A says:

    Could I use cornflour instead of cornstarch in this? Or normal flour?

  208. Bev says:

    This is the only frosting I use on Red Velvet cake! It is so much better than Cream Cheese frosting on Red Velvet.

  209. Mel says:

    Erica – feel free to read through the comments – others have asked this same thing. It fares best at cool room temperature (gets a little melty in too warm of weather).

    Tricia – I use salted butter and yes, I have piped with it before.

    A – I’ve only ever used cornstarch and haven’t tried other substitutions.

  210. Sue says:

    I am wondering if you think I could use honey instead? I LOVE this frosting and have made it many, many times according to your recipe. But, I need a honey frosting and since I am spoiled with this frosting and hoping the honey would work. Thanks! 🙂

    • Mel says:

      Sue – I’ve never tried this with honey. It probably will just have to be a trial and error if you are looking for a honey frosting. Good luck if you try it!

  211. Kathleen says:

    OMG!!! This is amazing!!! I was looking for a fluffy frosting for sandwich sugar cookies, and this fit the bill perfectly! I, too, really don’t care for buttercream frosting. I love whipped cream frosting, but it’s just not stable enough for long. This frosting is like buttercream and whipped cream frosting had a perfect love child!!!

  212. Robin says:

    Delicious, just made this and it is the best frosting ever!!!!

  213. Betty Freakin Crocker says:

    Just had to make this today- the first recipe I tried on my new stand mixer- yay! I’m a buttercream afficienado-always on the search for a great frosting. It was truly delish, not difficult to make, & made plenty! I think it tastes like cake batter (like pound cake??)…thanks for sharing!

  214. Tiffiny says:

    Mel! I’ve made this unbelievably divine frosting a few times before (it’s my most favorite frosting of all time btw). And I just made it again last night for some spiced apple cupcakes I was making for work. And I mixed in your Divine Caramel Sauce because I wanted to make “caramel apple cupcakes.” And wow is it good! I mixed in just enough sauce to give it a slight caramel flavor, I piped it on the cupcakes and then drizzled more caramel on the top. I can’t tell you how good it was. I was almost tempted to fill a bowl with frosting (pretend it was ice cream) and drizzle it with the caramel. Ok… I was tempted but I just did a spoonful, haha. So I just wanted to say again how much I love this frosting. And the caramel sauce too! Thank you!

  215. Britt says:

    Mmmm… Flashback to my grandmother’s kitchen! This icing on a dark chocolate cake is fondly known as a Black Beauty Cake in my family. It thrills my heart to know it is not a lost art!! I was simply doing some late night browsing, but now have a plan for tomorrow morning 😉
    Thanks Ladies!!!!

  216. Sue says:

    Just any FYI…..I tried this with honey and it is delicious!! Some people told me it was even better than the original! Seems to have a fluffier texture, almost whipped cream like. I was stil able to pipe with it too. I used 1/2 c of honey in place of 1/2 c of sugar.

  217. Kenny says:

    Hi MeL 🙂

    I tried this frosting recipe last night with your cupcake recipe. I loved it! I saved some for my work buddies tomorrow. Let’s see what they say. 🙂

    I personally didn’t like cupcake icing or frosting. They are too sweet for my liking. So I usually scrape them off and just eat the cake part, which is also sweet.

    I’m not sure if I did your cupcake recipe right, but the cake wasn’t sweet! My boyfriend was a little disappointed (he has sweet tooth) but after we pipe this magical frosting on the cupcake, it became a hit! My brother, his girlfriend, their friend liked it too! Even my so-freaking-hard-to-please mother said that it was nice. I ate a few too.

    Thanks for the recipe! And thank whoever posted it on pinterest!

    I will definitely try a few more from your “the best recipes” page! 😀

  218. Mossy says:

    Heey!!
    I loved the recipe!! But I have a doubt!! How many grams is it per butter stick?

  219. Mel says:

    Mossy – I don’t know the conversion to grams but I think there are conversion calculators online if you google them.

  220. kelsey says:

    Have you tried this with bittersweet chocolate instead of semi-sweet? I tend to go more for the darker stuff. Just curious. I’ve had this with the semi-sweet and it’s delicious, so I don’t want to mess with a good thing.

  221. Kendra Zych says:

    I also make this frosting with a teaspoon of banana flavoring. It tastes like the filling in Twinkies. :0)

  222. Mel says:

    Kelsey – nope, I’ve only ever used semisweet chocolate. I think bittersweet would be ok, especially if you prefer the taste anyway.

  223. Deanne says:

    I just made this tonight. AMAZING! My kids went crazy for it. I couldn’t keep my 8 year old son away from it. SO light and fluffy. YUM! Thanks!

  224. Teresa says:

    my aunt makes this icing. i’ve never had luck recreating her masterpiece. i haven’t tried in years, i think it’s time to try again!

  225. Karen says:

    Love this frosting! Made this in Home Ec. when I was in high school.

  226. Iris says:

    Hi! I’m going to be trying this frosting for my Thanksgiving brown butter pumpkin cupcakes this week… Do you think if I just add some cinnamon that would work? Or is there maybe a way to make this a salted caramel frosting? I may have to do a test run! Thanks!

  227. Liz H says:

    Thank you so much! I have been looking for a frosting recipe without powdered sugar (and artificial sweeteners) for awhile, as one of my little guys is intolerant to sugar and we use HONEY. I made the first part with honey-using the exact amount of honey as called for with sugar since some said it wasn’t sweet (and honey is sweeter)-and I wish I would have used less because it is SWEET! I just mixed in the butter … and it was SO MUCH FUN watching the frosting mix on medium-high for 5 minutes! YUMM!!! It has turned out so nicely! Next time I am going to add some cream cheese in place of butter … just to help counter the honey taste a little bit. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! This is AWESOME!

  228. Aimee says:

    Best. Frosting. EVER. Period. Utterly amazing with your chocolate cake recipe. Together they are an EXPERIENCE, not a dessert!

  229. Jennifer says:

    i was wondering if it matter if you use butter or margine

  230. Staarr says:

    I adapted your recipe last night and made a cream cheese version. My husband is still raving about it this morning! I only used one stick of butter and added 12 oz. of cream cheese (in place of the other two sticks of butter). I could put my face in the bowl! True, it takes a little longer but it’s so worth it. Thanks for posting your recipe!

  231. Cindy dupre' says:

    Im so used to using confect sugar for icing….is this granulated sugar recipe really that good? Better than powdered sugar recipes???

  232. Jnl2211 says:

    If you like frosting with confectioner sugar you might think this isn’t sweet enough. I happen to dislike frosting with CS, and I think this is absolutely wonderful. It’s not gritty or overly sweet like most CS recipes.

  233. Pamela says:

    I was very excited to try this recipe. I was just looking for something a little different. However, I wouldn’t make this one again. It was just so so to me. I thought it was way too buttery. It did look a bit greasy from the butter. It was very light in texture though. I thought it was plenty sweet enough. It was fun to make and good to try something different. Thanks for sharing

  234. Karolina says:

    Hi, ccould u tell me how much grams is 24 table spoons of butter as i live in poland and we have different weight for butter sticks comparing to u.

  235. Mel says:

    Karolina – you’ll probably need to google that information since I’m not an expert at converting to grams.

  236. Karolina says:

    I will but could you at least tell me how much ounces is 3 sticks of butter?

  237. Mel says:

    Karolina – you can google that info, too, but I believe one stick of butter is 4 ounces (so 3 sticks would be 12 ounces).

  238. Karolina says:

    Mel – thank you… you made my day yesterday (3 sticks is 340g of butter 😛 )
    I have finished frosting yesterday night and decorated my black and white cupcakes to be ready for my today’s 30th Bday 🙂 the frosting is like nothing I have every tasted before – I love it. THANKS for sharing….It is my favorite from now on

  239. Judy says:

    Hello, I hate super sweet frosting and I tried your recipe after fringing it on google. It was AMAZING! I was afraid it would be too heavy because of all the butter but it was so fluffy it wasn’t heavy at all! I absolutely love it. Thank you for sharing!

  240. Datan says:

    You can cook the plain version and add cocoa powder after butter has been incorporated into the frosting. As much or as little as you’d like. Also try some instant coffee, or a tablespoonful or two of rum/cognac. yum!

  241. Alex says:

    I made this frosting a few weeks back for a chocolate cake and oh my is it yummy!!! It was a winner with everyone who ate it. We all found that it was much better after being refrigerated. This will be my stand by frosting from now on. I plan to make Christmas cupcakes this weekend and will be serving to a large crowd. I have no doubt they will be pleased. Thank you for sharing!

  242. Judy says:

    Hmm, I love love love this frosting but I’m wondering if it can be made into a lemon frosting. Any ideas? Sub some of the milk for lemon juice? Or do you think I’m better off looking for a lemon curd whipped with butter frosting? Thanks in advance!

    • Mel says:

      Hi Judy – I’ve never made it into lemon frosting so you’d have to experiment a bit. I don’t know if I would sub the milk for lemon juice since the milk is integral to the creaminess, but you could try adding lemon extract and/or lemon zest.

  243. Judy says:

    Hi Mel,

    Thanks for your reply, I really appreciate it. I ended up substituting 1/2 cup of milk for lemon juice and used 1.5 tsp of lemon extract instead of 2 tsp vanilla extract. It was AMAZING! The creaminess wasn’t noticeably different but as a lemon lover, I’d sacrifice some cream for lemon anytime! I’ve only used 1% milk every time I made your recipe so perhaps my batches are not as creamy to start with. I’m very happy with the results using 1% milk. Thank you for sharing your recipe! It’s truely delicious!

  244. Layla says:

    Hi there…this frosting is so fantastic, I’ve made it a few times now as is, but I’m wondering (and terribly sorry if this was already addressed!) if you think it would be as successful if I substituted different extracts for the vanilla? I was thinking about trying strawberry but am not sure…do you think it would still work? Thanks!

  245. Mel says:

    Layla – I’ve never really changed up the extracts but I know several other people have used lemon extract in the comments. I’d say give it a try!

  246. Lisa says:

    OMG, this looks delish! I will try for sure!

  247. Sara says:

    I tried this today and was a little disappointed. It’s good, but I don’t know if I would call it “magical”. I tried the chocolate version of the recipe, and it was very light and fluffy (so it would be perfect if that’s the kind of frosting you like), but I realized after making it that I prefer a more fudgey frosting.

    Thanks for the interesting recipe though! I will keep this one filed away for the day when I need something really light and fluffy.

  248. Barbarainnc says:

    The frosting and cake/frosting needs to be stored in the refrigerator, because of the cooked flour/milk mixture. 🙂 🙂

  249. Steph says:

    Oh my! I literally just finished making this and had to come review. This is exactly what I have been looking for in a frosting; light, fluffy and not overly sweet! Thanks Mel

  250. Brittany says:

    The frosting was okay. I made it just as instructed. It was light & fluffy & full of vanilla, but it tasted a little more like cake batter than frosting to me; that actually may be what you are looking for though. Even with the addition of the other ingredients, I was still able to discern a floury taste in the final product. Not bad, but definitely not the #1 icing I have ever made.

  251. JoBo says:

    Made this last night, was kind of skeptical if it would be as good as it claims, or if it would be a waste of 3 sticks of butter…. But it was FABULOUS !!!! perfect sweetness, perfect smoothness, wonderful flavor, great, great frosting! Adding it to my recipe box, my new “go to” frosting recipe! Used it on a funfetti cake, everyone who tried it loved it! I used my kitchenaid to whip it up, followed the recipe exactly.

  252. Kathy says:

    You will love this frosting forever. I’ve been using it for 40 years. For spice cakes I add cinnamon always and other spices depending on if its spice cake, carrot cake, banana cake. Awesome on lemon cake, orange pineapple cakes as well. Enjoy it as much as we do!!

  253. Nadia says:

    Mel, I just made this frosting today and piped it on my son’s birthday cupcakes- it turned out truly magical!! I am so thrilled I found it through your blog, since nobody in my family is a big buttercream frosting fan! Thank you! Thank you! I just posted your recipe on my blog and linked it back to you. Forever grateful! It is perfect! Looking forward to trying the chocolate version next! 🙂

  254. Tabitha says:

    Hi! I’v been hunting for a good frosting recipe and other similar ones w/flour beat the sugar and butter then add the milk/flour… What do you think the difference is? Iv never tried either

  255. Mel says:

    Tabitha – I’m really not sure the difference – this is the only recipe I’ve made that is a flour-based frosting.

  256. Jane says:

    Girl – You are in the wrong business – you need to be in sales! I fell for your claims on this one, the best/magical frosting, but I’m not sure I haven’t been swindled. I think this one needs a tutorial and I must say that the build up of your previous disasters with The Pioneer Woman’s frosting did nothing to bolster my confidence – yikes! I have a frosted chocolate cake (your Ultimate!), but it sure isn’t pretty. The frosting looks a little curdled and I was scared to death of doing something wrong (have you seen the price of butter!?), so I followed your directions to a T. My question is this…can this frosting be overbeaten? If not, then I could maybe have whipped it some more. Pictures of the different stages would be helpful because, although I do trust you implicitly, it was a leap of faith to follow through. Here’s to it tasting better than it looks!

  257. Sara says:

    I just made this frosting after having it bookmarked for several months. I substituted 1 8oz block of cream cheese for 2 of the sticks of butter and let me tell you! This is the most amazing frosting I have ever tasted! I made the chocolate kind, and it was delicious even before I added 5 oz of room temp melted semi sweet chocolate. I just want to go eat this frosting with a spoon! I will have a tough time buying frosting now. The only con is the time it takes, but it is so delicious I really don’t think it matters.

  258. emily says:

    Have you tried piping it yet?! My daughter’s birthday is coming up and I’m looking for an alternative to buttercream!

  259. Kelly says:

    I followed your recipe exactly except I scraped the seeds from a vanilla bean and whisked them into my flour mixture. I made it yesterday to frost a chocolate cake I was taking to a dinner party last night. The hosts are friends that own one of the best and busiest restaurants in town – he is the chef and an incredible one at that so I was a little nervous. I knew it was awesome when he kept slicing small slivers of the cake and eating them while we were finishing our wine after dessert. All four of us LOVED this frosting and I will be using the recipe for years to come. Thank you!!

  260. Desiree says:

    Holy smokes, it worked! I got fluffy frosting and it tastes AMAZING!!! I’m no cook or baker and I was able to do it! Thank you so much!!

  261. […] credit: Mel’s Kitchen Cafe: Magical Frosting 1 1/2 cups granulated sugar 1/4 cup all-purpose flour 3 tablespoons cornstarch 1/4 teaspoon salt 1 […]

  262. Laureen says:

    Can you use margarine instead of butter…don’t have enough butter in house…just wondering.

  263. maria says:

    any suggestion on how to make a coffee flavoured of this recipe?

  264. shauni says:

    Like most of you, I don’t care for frosting. I want to like it but I’ve made so many frostings and they all disappoint. There are so many good reviews for this one, I’m excited to try it but does it have a strong butter taste?

  265. Stacey S says:

    I was wondering how well the frosting holds up, and also would I be able to substitute the butter with shortening?

  266. Kathy says:

    I was a little unsure of this frosting recipe as I was making it but it turned out great. I should know that I can always trust one of your recipes!

  267. Chey says:

    I made this to frost a chocolate/strawberry layer cake for my Dad’s birthday the other night and you’re right. It’s Absolutely. 100%. Magical. (It was so good nobody could believe that I actually made it) Thank you so much!

  268. Emile says:

    For all those who are asking, I left the cake out with the icing on top for 15 full hours on a dry and cool day (around 25 degrees Celsius in Hong Kong) and it didn’t melt…tasted delish!

  269. Stephanie says:

    This is the best frosting I have ever made. I fixed a chocolate cake using the recipe for “making a box cake taste like it came from the bakery,” then frosted it using this recipe and my husband loved it …. Not only loved it, but has asked me to “bake THAT” cake again and again!

  270. kerwin says:

    Excuse my ignorance but how much is 3 Sticks of butter in grams please ?

  271. Jnl2211 says:

    It’s 24 ounces or 340 grams. There are tons of conversion sites on the web.

  272. Rosemary Correia says:

    Initially after making this frosting and tasting it I found it wasn’t a lick the bowl kind of frosting that I liked. Had hubby taste and he liked as he said it wasn’t sickenly sweet as his preference is for more plain cakes such as pound cake. I decided after making it that I would frost the white texas sheet cake. On the cake frosting was phenomenal. Everyone who had some loved it as I did. Could not stop eating. Thanks for a great cake frosting.

  273. Emily says:

    I just made this frosting and was so sad when it separated. I believe my batch is beyond repair. I refrigerated the base for a couple hours while I left the house and let it sit out for over an hour to get back to room temp. I let the butter sit out at the same time. I really thought is was the right tempature but it was sooo oily and lumpy when I added the butter. I whipped it for a full 5 min, too. The only thing that I can think of that I must have done wrong was use butter from a tub. Since you said 24 T. I thought it was okay to use a spread. Very sad day because I was eager to try it with your unbelievable chocolate cake.

    • Mel says:

      Hi Emily – yes, it is most definitely due to the butter spread which is much different than butter (usually more oil and water). Sorry it didn’t work out for you. Usually I’ll indicate in the notes above a recipe if other ingredients can be subbed for the ones called for in the recipe.

  274. Angela says:

    It looks quite tasty 😀
    I’m trying it tomorrow.I will let you know how it comes out.
    Have a nice day.

  275. J.D. Tolman says:

    I made this recipe today, and it is divine. I divided the cooled napalm into 2 bowls before adding the vanilla and butter. I made one as specified here, and the other I replaced the vanilla with banana extract and a little yellow food coloring. Wow, that tasted good. Also, I took the finished vanilla icing, about a cup of it, and whipped in about 3 tablespoons of a honey-whipped peanut butter. I’ve never tasted anything so good! It mixed in very well.

    The net result: Elvis Cupcakes. Chocolate cake, peanut butter cream filling, and banana icing on top. Long live the KING!

  276. Tonda says:

    I have tried frosting twice and I can not get the milk mixture to thicken like you describe in the recipe, it said it is suppose to become difficult to easily whisk. I follow the recipe exactly. Do you have any idea I love the taste but it wont even hold a Rosette. hope you can help me thanks

    • Mel says:

      Tonda, without being in your kitchen with you, I have no idea why your frosting isn’t thickening. Are you cooking it long enough?
      It should be hot enough to bubble and thicken.

  277. Kat says:

    Eek! I totally should have read the comments first… my flour mixture is now cooling ready for use tomorrow and I was intending on using this under fondant for a decorated birthday cake but now I am concerned that it won’t be suitable. Has anyone had any success (or otherwise!) using this frosting under fondant? Wondering whether I need to be hunting down a last minute alternative!

  278. Rachel says:

    Mel, I just wanted to say that I think it’s amazing you posted this in September of ’10 and are STILL responding to comments. You are awesome!
    My first icing adventure is currently in the cooling stage 🙂 I read over all the other comments to avoid asking a duplicate question (I apologize if I missed it somewhere) and I was amazed that no one has attempted/asked about a peanut butter version of this? Could you possibly substitute a bit of the butter for peanut butter? I made my first from scratch chocolate cake and PB frosting seems the perfect fit. In a bit I guess I’ll see how this adventure turns out!

    • Mel says:

      Hi Rachel – after all these comments and yes, I think you are the first to ask about peanut butter! Great idea (may have to steal it) although I think I would add it in addition to the butter and not take out any of the butter. The frosting really needs all that butter (and yes there is a lot) to stabilize and fluff. But I think after it has whipped most of the way, you could definitely add 1/2 cup peanut butter or so to the mixture and whip.

  279. Kat says:

    Thought I’d just pop back with a couple of comments now that I have finished my frosting, and indeed my cake!
    Firstly, the chocolate version of this frosting is absolutely DEVINE, My OH loved it so much that he polished of the several spoonfuls I had leftover straight from the bowl! He is looking forward to me trying out the vanilla version very soon. I have to admit I initially thought that although it had a lovely flavour there was something about the taste that was a little bit… lardy? To combat this I added in a couple of teaspoons of lemon juice (I would have tried extract if I’d had any in the cupboard) and it really did the trick – it just gave a very slight tang, kind a cream cheese flavour just without the actual cream cheese!
    Secondly, I took a chance on using it under fondant and it worked totally fine!
    I have to thank you Mel for bring this frosting into my life, and my OH’s!

  280. Liselle says:

    Will this stand up at a County Fair??? I have to use it in a double layer cake, so I assume I have to find a *from scratch* very light chocolate cake being the frosting is very light???? The cake would be sitting in the fair building overnight until judging the next day. Temps could not fall below 80 degrees. PA in August. I would love to use this delicious frosting.If anyone could suggest a good lightweihht choc cake
    ???

  281. Angela says:

    It’s FANTASTIC!!!

    I made it last week and it was far more delicious than expected 😀

    Today I wanna try the chocolate version but I have a question: when do the melted chocolate has to be added?

    • Mel says:

      Hi Angela – instructions for the chocolate version are below the recipe. It tells when to add the cocoa powder and melted chocolate.

  282. shayne says:

    this is the frosting I grew up with we all called it “The Good Frosting”. so happy to know that the recipe is out there. I have no idea where my Mom got the recipe from but she used it for my 1st birthday and every birthday after that until she died.

  283. fariza says:

    i made this to frost for my son’s chocolate cake, and my dad who never liked ANY frosting/buttercream said he loved this. Not overly sweet nor greasy. Thanks for the recipe! I coloured my frosting after crumb-coating and left it in the fridge whilst waiting for the crumb-coat to harden. At first the frosting came out all grainy and separated when I took it out of the fridge, but became smooth again after whipping. Loved this!

  284. chad says:

    i love the recipe!!! sounds amazing!!! is there any way i can replace the butter with any thing else??? cant have any butter what so ever..

  285. denise says:

    is the butter salted or unsalted?

  286. Alicia says:

    I have been baking professionally forever and always use Italian meringue because I don’t like the powdered sugar stuff. This was SO easy to make and delicious. Next time I am going to decrease the butter to two sticks instead of three, it was a little to much buttery for me but I think with decreasing it to two sticks would make it taste identical to Italian Meringue without the trouble of boiling water/sugar and the difficulty that comes along with making Italian meringue. Wonderful recipe!

  287. Sharon says:

    After cooking the sugar/milk mixture, I spread it in a glass 13 x 9 pan so that it could cool quicker with good results. It cooled quickly and whipped up beautifully. Wonderful frosting!! Definately a great change from traditional frosting!!

  288. AshleyJ says:

    Wow! This was definitely worth the extra effort. I made this for some cupcakes today, a double batch of vanilla and a single batch of chocolate (using dutch-process cocoa and bittersweet chocolate) and it was amazing. I piped it onto my cupcakes using a 1M tip immediately after the five-minute fluffing, and they are beautiful! Thank you so much for sharing. I cannot wait to share these cupcakes with our graduates tomorrow at church.

  289. Frankie says:

    Hi! Great recipe, thanks. By the way, I used coconut milk ( I live in the Caribbean) and it made it totally super amazing. Also, I kept the extra, (there was lots) in a tub in the fridge and totally used it for a couple days, I just didn’t re-whisk it at all, just let it warm up a bit then it was smooth enough to spread! Super frosting.

  290. Tiff says:

    I know someone in the earlier posts asked whether it needed to stay chilled and you recommended putting it in the fridge. However, I’m planning on using this frosting on several dozen cupcakes that will not all fit in my fridge. Is it possible to leave them covered on the counter over night or will the frosting melt?

    • Mel says:

      Tiff – the frosting won’t melt unless your house is unusually warm but at cool room temperature (anywhere around 70 degrees) and you should be ok to keep them covered at room temperature.

  291. Krista says:

    I am going to make a Minnie Mouse star piped cake. Do you think the chocolate version would turn to a black with black food coloring? I can never make black frosting. Ugh

    • Mel says:

      Krista – you stand a better chance of getting black frosting starting with a chocolate base so it’s worth a try. Make sure to use good-quality gel coloring (my favorite brand is Americolor).

  292. Michelle says:

    I have been wanting to try this for a while and I finally found time. I have read several comments of what the consistency of the flour mix should look like cooking and when it’s ready to place in clean bowl and cool. My question is, what is it suppose to look like after it has cooled before you add the butter and vanilla? I’m a little worried mine is not quite right.

  293. Lisa says:

    Mel- this frosting is to die for! my question is would it stand up to a layer cake? is the frosting too light that it would not support a top layer on it? also how to make the chocolate frosting darker in color?
    thx!

    • Mel says:

      Hi Lisa – actually, I use this frosting for layer cakes most of the time. It holds up beautifully! Not sure on the chocolate frosting – try using a combination of unsweetened chocolate (it will darken the frosting more than milk chocolate) or maybe even try adding some cocoa powder.

  294. Lien says:

    You should also try to use Hershey’s Special Dark cocoa powder. It’s amazing, I love the above so much better than regular.

  295. Febs says:

    I’ve tried the Tasty Kitchen version before, with no problems what so ever. I’ve tried your version yesterday, but it was too sweet for me, and the finish icing was separating a little bit. Good enough for spread icing, but not piping.

    For the second batch, I forgot to put in the sugar with the flour mixture. So I decided to make it a la Tasty Kitchen and gave it a little tweak. After I creamed the butter only, for 30 seconds, I put only half of the granulated sugar, then the flour mixture. After it was fluffy, I substitutes the other half of the granulated sugar with icing sugar, then whipped it again until it’s very fluffy. The consistency was much stiffer…great for piping. The butter did not separate at all.

  296. lanaya says:

    Did anyone else have issues with it being too runny? I had to use margarine as it was all I had on hand. Could that be a reason? Other than that it was amazing!!! Love the flavor!

    • Mel says:

      Lanaya – margarine does not produce the light and creamy result in this frosting that butter does so that is most definitely the issue.

  297. Kelly says:

    I cooled the frosting in an icebath while stirring.. it worked like a charm and cut out a lot of time! This is hands down the BEST frosting I have ever eaten!! I had it with your chocolate cake, nutella filling and topped it with fresh strawberries! mmmmm

  298. Ariane says:

    I finally made this after looking at it, for I think, since you posted it. I made it exactly as you have it and it turned out awesome. Mine didn’t come out as fluffy as yours but I piped it onto my cupcakes (I turned your cake into bite-sized portions) and it still has to be the very best icing ever. It doesn’t look like anything special, but wow, it is. I don’t know if I will ever want another recipe again.

  299. ELA says:

    What cocoa powder did you use, Dutched or regular? Could a dark cocoa make the chocolater version darker or have you tried it before? Thanks.

    • Mel says:

      Ela – I’ve used both with good results.

      • Natalie says:

        Mel, I was wondering if there is a way to incorporate coffee into this frosting recipe without cocoa. Would love to know if you’ve tried or if anyone else has tried. I don’t know if using brewed coffee in place of milk would work…might not thicken. ???

        • Crika says:

          I have not tried coffee, but I did use Chai concentrate once (Tazo brand) to make a chai spiced icing and it turned out amazing!

  300. [email protected] says:

    Fabulous frosting! I found the cooked portion of the frosting extremely easy to make in the microwave….I cooked it at 50% power and stirred it every couple of minutes. This was perfect on top of the favorite chocolate cake recipe!

  301. Stacy says:

    This is very similar to the recipe my Grandma made and I was so glad when I found it again. It’s the frosting I use on my Red Velvet cake (not a huge fan of cream cheese icing) and I have always gotten rave reviews.

  302. Natalie says:

    Mel, my sister-in-law, Bonnie, put me onto your site. I LOVE it! Question about this frosting: Do you think I could substitute 1/2 cup of the milk for lemon juice? I really like a frosting with flavor (i.e. browned butter frosting, or lemon and coconut—you HAVE to try adding coconut oil to your frosting recipes sometime. It’s delicious! I use it half-n-half with butter. And have you ever tried browning your butter for chocolate frosting? Wow! It does change the fluffiness aspect, though.) Anyway, I’d like to make a lemon frosting, but I was really excited to try this recipe. What do you think?

    • Mel says:

      Hi Natalie – I love Bonnie! Thanks for the note! I know there are a ton of comments on this recipe but I know someone else made lemon. I don’t think they subbed out the milk instead they added lemon zest in at the end. It might be worth reading through the last few comments because I’m pretty sure it was recent and I could be wrong. Good luck! Love your other tips!

  303. Kasey says:

    I see that this is an old post (with a TON of comments!) but I wanted to let you know I made this frosting today and it was ahhhmazing. The texture was very similar to the chocolate frosting found in this recipe (my FAVE chocolate frosting)- http://www.kevinandamanda.com/recipes/dessert/brownie-batter-chocolate-fudge-cupcakes.html

    Glad that now I have a to-die-for vanilla frosting recipe too! Instead of vanilla I tried almond extract, but I think for my daughter’s birthday on Sat. I’ve decided to do the original vanilla instead. 🙂 Thanks!!!

  304. Lien4424 says:

    I’ve made it into lemon frosting by taking out a few tablespoons of milk, waiting until the mixture thickens, adding lemon juice, whipping up, then adding zest and pure lemon extract. Worked beautifully and tasted divine!

  305. Chiantel says:

    I am wondering, does this frosting dye well? I’m making a lego cake for my son’s birthday and I’d like to use this frosting – however I need the frosting to be yellow, blue, red, and green…can you dye this frosting? Thanks!

  306. Natalie says:

    Thanks, Mel and Lien, for the lemon help. I used 1 C. Milk and 1/2 C. lemon juice in the initial cooking phase. It was wonderful! My husband didn’t think it was sweet enough, but my dad and I couldn’t stop eating it. I loved not having the taste of powdered sugar in my frosting.

    It also dyed just great for the turquoise bat cake. (Thanks for the cake design idea, too.)

  307. Alastair says:

    I look forward to trying this recipe since I do not like cake frosting that is too sweet. I am thinking of making this recipe and then folding in a little bit of a homemade milk-free coconut vanilla pudding made extra thick. I am hoping for a frosting that has a slight buttery taste with a low sugar moist pudding like consistency.

    Cristina – I would suggest substituting the milk with coconut milk and a about 1 or 2 Tbsps of sugar to make up for the lack of sweetness. If you do not have enough coconut milk for 1 1/2 cups, just add water to make the same amount of liquid. I am allergic to two of the three proteins in milk so always bake without using milk. I prefer coconut milk more than soya milk because the end result tastes better.

  308. Alastair says:

    The frosting is not too sweet using the above standard recipe but it does have a strong buttery taste. I think it is a great recipe because of the flour to make it less sweet and with a light whip to it. I modified the recipe to by folding in a little bit of a homemade milk-free coconut vanilla pudding made extra thick (a little more than half of the liquid that the recipe called for – 2 1/2 cups reduced to 1 1/2 cups). I also added about 1/4 teaspoon of gelatin dissolved in a little cold water and then heated in a bowl over hot water to make it smooth (next time I may increase the gelatin to 1/3 or 1/2 teaspoon).

    The result was fantastic, I got a nice light frosting with a slight buttery taste that becomes firm when chilled and becomes soft when let sit for 15 minutes before indulging. I also added a few tablespoons of freshly squeezed orange juice and a little finely grated orange rind which gave it a very mild orange taste which went great when I topped my dairy-free homemade moist carrot cake.

    I got a great frosting with a lighter sweetness and lighter buttery taste since I added a little of my thick homemade coconut pudding. I think everyone should try this recipe and experiment a little like I did until they find the taste that they are extremely happy with.

    enjoy

  309. Dom says:

    Could soy milk be used instead of regular milk?

  310. Kim says:

    I made this today for my daughter’s birthday cupcakes. I followed your directions… brought it to a boil over medium heat until it thickened and let it cool to room temp. Sadly, it did not work out for me. Soooo runny. Any suggestions?

  311. Lisa N says:

    HI! I feel like I’m missing something since most everyone seems to be over the moon about this frosting. I made it yesterday and I have to say I was disappointed. I didn’t have any problems with the recipe, it seemed to whip up just fine. The texture was nice, but the flavor was a little too floury/cornstarchy for me. My brother said it reminded him of raw cookie dough. Not horrible, but not what I’m looking for in frosting. It does seem to taste better the next day, which is unfortunate since ideally you are supposed to use it shortly after making it…

    • Cindi says:

      That’s interesting – wonder if it was the butter? Mine was very buttery – seemed to settle in after being in the fridge over night and then was PERFECT…did you use real butter? weird question maybe – or maybe it wasn’t cooked quite long enough?

  312. Mel says:

    Kim – the finished, whipped frosting was runny?? If so, it might be that the frosting base wasn’t quite cool enough.

  313. Megan says:

    I am making a cake for my daughter’s birthday tomorrow, can I make this frosting tonight and let the complete product sit in the fridge until I need to use it tomorrow?

  314. Liselle says:

    Mel!!
    I made the most incredible cake yesterday! I must tell you all about it. I used your chocolate cake recipe and it made 3-8 inch layers. I cut each layer a little less than an inch with my horizontal cake saw thingie. I made a ganache filling by taking a bag of ghirardelli semi sweet choc chips and pouring 1 3/4 C just boiling cream over them. Wait 2 mins. Stir in slowly and thoroughly. Refrigerate 3 hrs. Take out an hour before youre ready to use. Spread this thickly between the cake layers. More than 1/4″ but less than 1/2. Finally frost it with your Magical Frosting. I scraped a vanilla bean in the frosting cuz I’m crazy that way. This cake is not from this world. I don’t know where it’s from but I’ll be moving there as soon as I find out! I have dreams about it.

  315. Daniela says:

    Thanks for the recipe! I’ve been looking for something like this for years!! Just one question… I made the flour-cornstarch-sugar-milk mix yesterday and I got a nice, thick cream, but it still tastes a bit of raw flour? Is that normal? Should I boil it longer?

    • Mel says:

      Daniela – you can try boiling it longer to get rid of some of the flour taste but adding the butter at the end will definitely make it taste more like frosting. Just keep in mind, this has a bit of a different taste and texture than every day buttercream.

  316. karla says:

    I found your recipe a few months ago and I’ve been meaning to stop by and leave a coment. The first time I made it I knew I was in love! I have made it dozens of times since then and everyone loves it as well. I have also made the chocolate version and I went a little crazy and made it in caramel, cheesecakes, white chocolate, lemon and lime flavors! Thank you sooooooo much for posting this!

  317. Daniela says:

    Thanks for your help! As you said, adding the butter helped a lot to get rid of it, and it tasted just like raw cookie dough, which I love! I used the Piña Colada oil by Lorann to flavour it and fill and frost a cake and it’s been a HUGE hit!! Also, it didn’t melt or “de-puff” even after a 2-hour travel by car, which is quite awesome considering it’s about 100F here in Spain. Thank you SO much for this recipe!!!

  318. Alastair says:

    Cristina – I have made this frosting milk free since I am allergic to milk. It turned out great. I assume you could use shortening and/or margarine instead of the butter but I would make sure you add some other flavor such as bit of orange or lemon rind to jazz it up a little.

    I find that the trick to substituting milk or cream is to use something that has a great flavor. I substitute coconut cream/milk mixed with some water or a little soya milk. Too much soya milk gives it a strong bean taste so I prefer more coconut milk.

    I also made a homemade vegan coconut pudding with 1 T cornstarch, 2 T Birds Custard Powder, 1/2 c sugar along with 2 T margarine or shortening and 1 tsp vanilla. I mixed in this thick pudding into the frosting to reduce the greasy taste and make it into an amazing frosting. You have to make sure to keep the frosting cool if the weather is really hot or it gets a little soft.

    I hope all the readers can try out some of my suggestions and a big thanks to Mel for sharing the original great “magical” frosting recipe.

  319. Maurine says:

    Mel! I have been looking for this recipe for years! I remember my mother made this on her Red Velvet cakes when I was a little girl. Your photo looks just like I remember it. I lost her recipe & all I could remember is that it had flour in it & that she cooked it on the stove. I think she might have used a double boiler. She always used it for my birthday cake as it was my favorite! Not too sweet! I laughed at all the comments about how do you store the left over cake? Or not needing that much frosting….Really? We never had too much or any left overs!

  320. Tami says:

    Looking for a great recipe for my son’s wedding cake. How is the consistency of this frosting? Will it work well for that?

    • Mel says:

      Hi Tami – I hesitate to say yes without knowing what kind of cake you are making and what consistency you are looking for. The consistency of this frosting is very light and creamy.

  321. Ruth says:

    I feel so out of the loop! I only discovered this recipe earlier this year when a friend of mine requested it on a cake I will be making for her.

    I tried it out the first time as written with great success; it turned out just like it was supposed to.

    I am using the frosting on a wedding cake in a few weeks and due to the comments, have decided to make the frosting the day of the event in order to give it the best chance of holding up. I tried a few days ago to make the roux the night before and let it cool in the fridge. I then gave it several hours to come back to room temperature before whipping in the butter. The final product was not as good as the first try – the butter did not incorporate as well. I can only think it was because the roux was too cool still.

    My question is this: do you think I could make the roux the day before and then, instead of refrigerating it, just letting it rest at room temperature until I am ready to whip it up the next day? Would the roux spoil? Do you have an recommendations?

    • Mel says:

      Hi Ruth – instead of letting it sit out overnight, do you think you could refrigerate the roux and then pull it out a few hours before you want to make the frosting so that it comes back to room temperature? I’m kind of a freak about food safety and don’t like to let milk products of any kind sit out overnight, but having said that, as long as your house isn’t really hot, the roux should probably be ok sitting at room temperature for a short amount of time (as long as it isn’t a couple days).

  322. lina says:

    Hi, Im in love with swiss merangue buttercream, but am excited to try this. pls tell me( if you can,) how long can this buttercream stay outdoor. Im in singapore and wonder if this can withstand the humid weather here.. Not that I plan to bake the cake under the sun, but good to know if it can be left out for a while without me being worrying abt it melting. thanks. lina

    • Mel says:

      Lina – this is a delicate frosting that won’t hold up super well in extreme heat so I wouldn’t recommend letting it sit out in the heat (75 degrees or above) for longer than an hour.

  323. Amy says:

    I was wondering if you could share the frosting technique you used on this beautiful cake…you know for those of who are less than novice in the baking department.

    • Mel says:

      Amy – it’s been a long time but I’m pretty sure I just used my small offset spatula and swooped the frosting into swirls. Pretty low key and super easy!

  324. Annie says:

    Can I add food coloring to this icing?

  325. Carrie says:

    Hey Mel, Faaaaantastic frosting. I made the chocolate version to top brownies and it was utterly perfect. I doubled the melted chocolate (on accident—i forgot I was halving the rest of the recipe) and it was perfect! I will double it every time now. Thanks a million. Love love love your site.

  326. Nirmal says:

    Hii, the frosting tastes amazingg but when i use it on cupcakes it melts! I’m in distresss. Please help?

    • Mel says:

      Nirmal – this frosting is fairly delicate meaning it needs to be kept cool and won’t fare well in hot temperatures so try keeping it cool and see if that helps.

  327. June says:

    the recipe that we used when I was a child was:
    equal amounts of:
    Milk, flour, butter, crisco beat together about ten minutes until it all comes together and looks like whipped cream, add a teaspoon vanilla extract. A 1/2 of each will frost a two layer cake or a 13×9″ pan.

  328. Terri says:

    I’ve made this icing for years, my recipe was called “French Cream Icing”, I really can’t remember where/how I got it. I use it to frost angel food cake.

  329. Tracy says:

    My great-grandmother called this Mock Whipped Cream which more closely describes it than frosting. My family has been making it for over 100 years, so it’s an old recipe! I can’t imagine how they did it without an electric mixer! She’d heap it onto a dark chocolate cake, very yummy!

  330. lara says:

    Im not much of a cake eater, and when i do eat cake, i scrap most of the frosting off the cake because i just dont like it. My 2 1/2 year old wanted me to make chocolate chip cookies but i jad no chips to make them so i made a cake instead (from scratch, boxed cakes taste like poo) so after i made the cake i decided i might as well make frosting too. I didnt quit have enough flour for this recipe so i just guessed on the measurements for everything. I also didnt have a strainer so after i mixed the firat ingredients i just slowly poured the mixture into the saucepan and avoided pouring in (most of) the thick part of the mixture. But even after all that, the frosting turned out amazing! Though i wpuldnt advise eating too much cause it made me feel a little sick. Also, after my first piece, i put the rest of the frosted cake in the fridge and had another piece the next day, and it was even better after the frosting got stiffer. Its not too stiff, but perfect texture in my opinio. Best frosting ive ever tasted! And im very picky!

  331. lara says:

    Im not much of a cake eater, and when i do eat cake, i scrap most of the frosting off the cake because i just dont like it. My 2 1/2 year old wanted me to make chocolate chip cookies but i had no chips to make them so i made a cake instead (from scratch, boxed cakes taste like poo) so after i made the cake i decided i might as well make frosting too. I didnt quit have enough flour for this recipe so i just guessed on the measurements for everything. I also didnt have a strainer so after i mixed the firat ingredients i just slowly poured the mixture into the saucepan and avoided pouring in (most of) the thick part of the mixture. But even after all that, the frosting turned out amazing! Though i wpuldnt advise eating too much cause it made me feel a little sick. Also, after my first piece, i put the rest of the frosted cake in the fridge and had another piece the next day, and it was even better after the frosting got stiffer. Its not too stiff, but perfect texture in my opinion. Best frosting ive ever tasted! And im very picky! Oh, and im also terrible in the kitchen! (Sorry if this is a duplicate post, im doing this on my phone and its acting up)

  332. Catherine says:

    Just made this and OMG! So good! Hope it makes it to the cake.

  333. Gayle H. says:

    My Grandma used to make this all the time. She called it ” 7 minute frosting.” The whole family loved it; and she passed it down through the generations, and still going.

  334. Cristina says:

    Hi Mel,

    I was very excited when I found this version of the recipe, but I am a little sad over how it came out… I tried the tasty kitchen version and it came out really fluffy and good and tasty, but I didn’t like that the sugar didn’t completely melt and you could still feel it. So i tried this one, but i think i like the other version better.
    What i didn;t like about this version is:
    1. i can feel the starch flavor quite a lot and if also give a floury texture. It might be something that i am not used to because we rarely use cornstarch in anything…Can I only use flour and no corn starch at all? If yes, how much?
    2. after the mixtures cools it becomes very very hard. i could barely beat it and the finished frosting was a little less fluffy. Maybe i let it boil to much? After i took it off the stove, it had a caramel like consistency and i thought it would be ok like that, but then it got extremely thick…
    3. i absolutely hate butter creams and from where I am from (Romania) they are not very popular (maybe this is why i don’t like the taste)…. so i was hoping it would not have such a buttery taste, but it did… Can I use less butter? The thing i loved most about the tasty kitchen version was that it did not have such a strong butter flavor…

    I will try it another time, maybe this time leave it a little less on the stove and perhaps use only 2 sticks of butter?….

    • Mel says:

      Hi Cristina, sorry this didn’t work out for you. I haven’t tried any of the changes you suggested so if you want to omit the cornstarch or decrease the butter, you’ll have to experiment. Also, the base of the frosting (that you cook on the stove) should still be very soft and mixable after it cools. If your mixture was a caramel consistency and very hard, it sounds like it may have cooked quite a bit longer than it should have. It should just bubble and thicken before pulling it off the stove. If you really don’t like buttery frostings, this may not be for you. The finished frosting is very light and buttery. Good luck if you decide to experiment!

  335. jessica says:

    Hi! I see that this has been posted over two years ago but I luckily came across it and can’t wait to try it. I’m wondering, by the way, if it melts on humid summer weather? Or is this one of those crusting frosting/icing recipe that hardens? 🙂 I am looking forward to hour reply ! Thanks so much for posting this !

  336. Lien4424 says:

    In case she doesn’t get to your answer in time, yes, it will melt if too hot, and no, it doesn’t crust over.

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  338. Marian says:

    I like to frost my cake while it’s still frozen and then stack my layers and let it thaw several hours before serving. What do you think of that? I actually won’t have time to wait for a reply, but I’ll let you know how it went.

  339. Tesee says:

    I made this today to go on Strawberry cake and it worked so beautifully! I had also tried the Tasty Kitchen’s “Best Frosting I’ve Ever Had” recipe and, while I liked the flavor, the consistency wasn’t what I wanted. Then I found this recipe and the flavor is pretty much the same but the texture is just divine! It manages to be so light and fluffy yet creamy and silky all at the same time. When I first tasted it I thought it was too sweet and I went back to check the recipe and make sure I put in the right amount of sugar. That’s when I noticed that I had forgotten the salt! So I put in a good sized pinch of salt while I was letting it sit for an hour before frosting my cake. I made sure to mix it well with my spoon and it dissolved and mixed in beautifully. That little touch of salt took away the cloying sweetness and left it at just the perfect amount.

  340. Tesee says:

    Also, this recipe wasn’t quite enough for a 3 layer cake. It would have been fine for a 2 layer but I think for a 3 layer I will make one and a half times the recipe.

  341. Sara says:

    Made this last night and it is everything it claims to be. I stopped making buttercream and eating buttercream frosting a long time ago because I can’t stand the sickly sweet, greasy, gritty, taste of it. This frosting was mild in taste, light, and fluffy!! I used salted butter, and halved the recipe..amazzzing!

  342. Alright, I’m sold.
    I love that you throw everything together, even the sugar so it melts.
    Going to give this a go with some test-baking I’m doing for my hubby’s bday.
    Thanks!

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  343. Robin says:

    This has been around since i was a kid. It is known to me as Mock Whipping Cream, a friend of my Dads would make this for my brother and me when we were little, When i started cooking i got in touch with her and go the recipe, it is to die for!

  344. min says:

    I just tried making this but it curdled. I dont know why.

  345. Lanette says:

    I made this frosting last night for cupcakes. It was delicious. Sadly, I didn’t frost them all last night and missed the “caveat” at the bottom of the post. That means that when I just let the icing come back to room temperature and rewhipped….nothing but separation. Oh well! I’ll just tell everyone to close their eyes and enjoy! 🙂

  346. Dee says:

    Hi, Mel. Should the milk be room temperature?

  347. Lexi says:

    Thank you so much of posting this recipe! I have made 2 batches now and it was a huge hit 🙂 I am not a fan of frostings at the supermarket, they are much too sweet, this is a very fluffy, buttery bakery-like frosting, and I love it!
    I left my mixer going until I was happy with the consistency, and did not use a strainer in my boiling process and no problems here.
    Once again THANK YOU 🙂

  348. Sarah says:

    I made this frosting today to top a chocolate cake. I used caramel extract rather than vanilla. This is by far the best homemade frosting I’ve come across and very easy to make. This will be my go-to frosting from now on! I did not use a strainer nor did I have any lumps. Awesome, thank you for the recipe 🙂

  349. cakeholic says:

    Hi Mel, how long we can keep this frosting in room temperature?

    • Mel says:

      Cakeholic – This frosting doesn’t hold up well to extremely warm temperatures, but at cool room temperature I would say it is fine for up to 8 hours.

  350. Nicole Riggs says:

    Good heavens this stuff is amazing! Arianna wanted a chocolate cake for her 4th bday and so I did your chocolate cake with this frosting and it was utterly amazing! It’s funny because I got out some left over canned frosting from a bday party and told Kevin to try both and we were both just surprised at the fact that the canned stuff tastes like straight sugar/corn syrup…there is no other flavor. This stuff is so much better. And I did use it to pipe some swags on the cake and it worked great just tossing it in the fridge for 15 minutes or so. So so soooo yummy! I will have to go the extra step now for all my cakes, as I don’t think any other frosting will compare. Thanks Mel! 🙂

  351. Diana says:

    Hi! Had to stop by and tell you how well the recipe turned out for me. I read every comment and was a little terrified to try it. I saw comments saying it was a disaster to make in advance, so I got up extra early the day of the birthday party to make a batch. I doubled the recipe since I wanted to fill and cover a 5 layer cake. HERE is a tip! (I didn’t do this) since I doubled the recipe, it took three hours to come to room temp. And that was with me cheating and putting in the fridge for part of the time. I think if I make it again, instead of putting the cooked base in the mixer bowl to cool, I’ll spread it in a 9×13 baking dish or something similar. It took wayyyy to long to cool down in the mixer bowl. I should’ve trippled it, but I skimped on the layers and it was the perfect amount and looked lovely. Taste was good too. And for anyone wondering, it held up at room temp perfectly alllll day. And I put the leftovers in the fridge and there was no separation or anything. Still tasted great, but definitely not as fluffy. Next time I will make the frosting the night before and cover it and let it sit a room temp until I’m ready to use it. Thanks for a yummy alternative to buttercream! Oh! And it was perfectly pipable. Even without letting it sit to thicken. 🙂

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  353. mesheala says:

    Do you know if this frosting would stand up to a chocolate ganache drizzle over it? Or will it just reduce/fall? Hope that makes sense.
    I wanting to make a coffee infused chocolate cake with this frosting, a chocolate drizzle and strawberries on top. Thank you 🙂

  354. bluebaker says:

    I made this today, and the unbelieveable chocolate cake. The frosting seems too soft, but that could be because I only have a hand mixer. I added some conf, sugar to see if I could stiffen it up., and I added a little more vanilla and some almond extract ( my favorite)to see if I could punch up the flavor. This will be a good Sunday dessert for tomorrow, but I think at this stage of the game, I will stick to your cream cheese/ buttercream one (the one on the polar bear cupcakes) . Reading thru the comments, its funny that there are so many opinions about what is good, and best, but we’re all trying to do the same thing- please our family and friends with great homemade food. so,
    I think if I had a stand mixer with more power it would have been better. It was fun to try this new method.

  355. bluebaker says:

    I tried to save it with more flavoring and more powdered sugar, but the magic didn’t happen for me, I’m sorry to say. I really wanted it to, after reading all the raves. I guess I just tend to like the more traditional buttercreams. I really like your cream cheese butter-
    creme. Thanks for all the experimenting you do for us, and for all the great recipes. Its nice to know that even if a certain recipe doesn;t work out, we can still be friends.

    • Mel says:

      bluebaker – of course! We’ll always be virtual friends. I like it when people can post constructive advice/criticism on a recipe. I’m sorry you didn’t like this frosting. A hand mixer may not be able to whip up the magic like a stand mixer. But I am glad you have another standby that you love.

  356. Linda says:

    I will try this recipe. My mom had a cooked recipe only it called for on egg flour, Sugar,milk mix and cook til thick. Let cool, then using unsalted butter ,vanilla and some powdered sugar. This is like ice cream!

  357. Ela says:

    Hi Mel, I’m one of those who love this recipe. So smooth, creamy and not gritty at all. In other words, I’m so pleased with the result. My only problem is, I made a layer cake with mousse filling and we had leftover. I didn’t know whether to put the frosted cake in the refrigerator or not. I was afraid that the frosting would hardened and separate as you described, but at the same time, I was also concerned that the filling would be spoiled. What would you do in my case? Where would you keep the leftover frosted cake? And how long would it keep at room temperature? Thanks.

    • Mel says:

      Ela – I would refrigerate the cake – should be fine for a couple days if covered well – just take it out a couple hours before serving if it has been refrigerated so the frosting has time to soften.

  358. Heidi Messenger says:

    Mel, Do you know if I could make this the day before and store it in the fridge before I frost my cake?

  359. Ashley says:

    Butter is fairly expensive here in China. I usually use oil instead of butter for most recipes. Is it possible to use oil instead of butter in this recipe? I know to reduce the measurement by about half to keep it from being too liquidy.

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  361. Amy Ramos says:

    One word: fabulous. I made this for my family’s birthdays (had three within the past two weeks and we celebrated all together).
    I made this with your unbelievable chocolate cake. Holy yum!!
    After reading your tips/comments, I decided to use a 9×13 pan and it came out perfectly. When I make it again, I might add chocolate chips to the cake mix.
    This is will be my go to frosting and cake recipe for sure!
    Thank you!

  362. Kristen Lee says:

    Can you freeze this frosting?

  363. Kailey says:

    I just finished making this frosting, and I have a couple tips:
    1. If you are on a diet, do not make this!! You will want to taste a little, then you won’t be able to keep yourself from “just getting a little more.”
    2. If you hate frosting like I do, you will love it after making this heavenly dessert that shouldn’t even have the privilege of being called frosting.
    3. Stock up on butter!

  364. Dee says:

    Loved this … and all three of my kids loved it, too! To sweeten and stiffen it up a bit I added one cup of sifted confectionary sugar at the end – I wanted to be able to pipe it. I also added some vanilla bean paste which left little specks of vanilla bean in the frosting …. DELICIOUS!

  365. Jane says:

    Mel, I just found your website and signed up. I was browsing your recipes and came across this one. I, too, hate super sweet greasy frosting – I usually scrape the frosting off the cake – unless it’s whipped cream frosting which I love. But I digress. I used to have a recipe very, very similar to this and lost it. We called this Ice Cream Icing and it was incredible. Reading this recipe I would say it’s better than what I used to have because you didn’t put the sugar in the cooked mixture, it had more cornstarch and no flour. After you cooled the mixture you had to incorporate the sugar which took forever, then the butter. This is way better. Can’t wait to try it – I’ve missed Ice Cream Icing and will use this next cake I make!!! This is a great website – you have recipes I can actually make!

  366. clodie says:

    i want to try this for my daughter’s birthday on saturday but i’d like to know if i could make it today and keep it in the fride for a little less than 48 hours without compromising the texture. with 2 kids and a newborn i try to make thing ahead of time when i can!

    • Mel says:

      Hi Clodie – this frosting is best made fresh (in my opinion) but I totally know what you mean about trying to get things done in advance. It can be made ahead and refrigerated – you’ll want to take it out a couple hours before using it and then rewhip it. I have to be honest, I’ve done this and it isn’t quite as smooth and silky made in advance (and sometimes can separate a bit) but others have commented they’ve made it ahead and been fine. Good luck!

  367. Lien says:

    I would just make the base ahead, then take the few minutes on the day of to whip the butter in.

  368. Emily Bessey says:

    Have you tried using skim milk? And what do you think about halving the recipe? I just made your Unbelievable Chocolate Cake in a 9×13 pan and I don’t think I’ll need the full 4 cups to frost the top of the cake… Thanks for your help! Can’t wait to try it!

    • Mel says:

      Emily Bessey – I have not tried skim milk – personally I’d recommend using 1% or higher. Halving the recipe should work just fine though. Good luck!

  369. Sam says:

    Okay, this frosting was absolutely DELICIOUS! 😀 I just wanted to comment today after I made it on Sunday and let you know this is the best homemade frosting I have ever come across online, and I’ve tried very many with lots of failing alongside of them. Finally found the one I was looking for, I guess, and I cut out a stick of butter and used just two, unsalted – worked like a charm! My boyfriend keeps sneaking it out of the container it’s in , in our fridge (and me too, I’m not going to lie!) Thanks for sharing this!

  370. Shanna says:

    This frosting was not good for piping. After refrigerating at the end it went really grainy and was a nightmare to work with. Tastes great but does not pipe well

  371. Lien says:

    You must live where it’s super hot because I never have problems piping or holding shapes with this frosting.

  372. Traci says:

    I just made this – frosted the easy yellow cupcakes- from this site. Both are amazing!
    But…even after generously frosting 2 dozen cupcakes, I still have tons left over. If I had time, I’d whip up more cupcakes, but I don’t. Any suggestions? Is there a way to keep this frosting, even a couple days, in hopes of being able to use it up?

    • Mel says:

      Hi Traci – I store the leftovers of this frosting in the fridge and then let it come to room temp before spreading on sugar cookies or using again (sometimes it helps to whip it again so it is creamy after refrigerating).

  373. Kitty Schafer says:

    I made the roux last night. Left it and margarine out on the counter overnight. Started the whipping process… and it separated instead of whipping nicely. It has happened twice to me now. But 2 other times I had great success with this recipe. Any ideas why it separated???

    • Mel says:

      Kitty Schafer – Margarine can’t be subbed for the butter; also if using butter, the frosting may look separated at first but it needs to be whipped for the full amount if time in the recipe and should come together. The butter should be at cool room remp…too soft and it may not whip correctly. I hope that helps. I am sorry it didn’t work out for you.

  374. Rauza says:

    Thank you Mel, I tried your recipe and everyone loved it. I added some powdered sugar at the end. it piped beautifully. I only left it in the fridge for 10 minutes and it was ready to go on cake.

  375. Barbara Card says:

    This recipe minus the flour has been THE buttercreme frosting used for YEARS in our family. I’ve added 1- 2 tsp of cherry flavoring from a jar of maraschino cherries along with 1 tsp. of almond flavoring for a varied taste. YUM!!

  376. Flora says:

    Hi! I’m really interested in this recipe! I’ll be making a (vegan!) cake for a friend this weekend, but I’m unsure if this frosting will be stiff enough for a ruffle cake decoration. And also, we’ll be holding the party outside at a temp of 32 F, 77% humidity. Will it be able to hold the ruffle shapes without melting/drooping?

    Please do reply to my inquiry! Thanks so much for sharing this recipe! Can’t wait to try it.

    • Mel says:

      Flora – This frosting has piped fine for me in the past (although others have reported it is a little on the soft side so it may be worth doing a trial run for piping purposes). The one downfall of this frosting is that it doesn’t hold up well in warm or overly humid temperatures so it may not be the right fit for the outdoor party.

  377. Kristen says:

    This is the second cooked frosting I tried and this one is perfect. It came out like Satin. I cooled in an ice bath and in the freezer (with careful monitoring and stirring). I used 2 parts salted butter and one part shortening (to help with humid climate of Honolulu). I cut out salt, since butter was salted. About an hour from start to finish- perfect on my traditional red velvet (which has no red dye, so really brownish-red velvet 🙂 I love this website!!!

  378. cakeholic says:

    Hi Mel, I do not like overly sweet cream. Can I reduce the amount of sugar? Will I ruin it? Thanks in advance.

    • Mel says:

      cakeholic – This frosting isn’t all that sweet in my opinion so you might want to make it as is to see how sweet it is for your taste. Good luck!

  379. Teagan says:

    Hi Mel.

    Firstly, thank you so much for all your incredible recipes – you know how people used to have that trusty old recipe book, full of hand-written amendments from your grandma? This website is that for me.

    I just wanted to ask – I am wanting to make Amarula flavoured frosting for my brother’s 21st. Amarula is a South African liquer made from marula fruit. I would say the closest comparison would be Bailey’s Irish Cream liquer. I have baked with it before (Amarula cheesecake – yum!) and when it is added to other stuff, the flavour tends to soften (I normally add 3/4 Tablespoons to a standard cheesecake). Which can be nice if you are wanting a subtle flavour. But for this, I want the flavour to really shine (although perhaps without the intention of intoxicating everyone…). I am guessing I will need even as much a 6/7 Tbs?? How and when would you suggest I incorporate this? Thanks for the help!

    • Mel says:

      Thanks, Teagan – you are so sweet! About your question, I would suggest adding it with the vanilla (I think that’s the best bet for not messing up the consistency of the frosting). If you taste the frosting after the butter has been added and the flavor isn’t strong enough, you could drizzle in a bit more (taking care not to liquify the frosting). Good luck!

  380. Lien says:

    I would reduce the amount of milk by a few tablespoons and replace it in equal amounts with the liqueur, then add more if needed in place of the vanilla. I’ve flavored this frosting many ways, and it seems best to add it to the liquid in the beginning. Later than that you run the risk of too soft of a frosting. Good luck!

  381. Hala says:

    Hello.. is there any chocolate version for this?

  382. Debbie says:

    I made this frosting for a giant cupcake, IT WAS AWESOME!!!!
    I would like to know, can I double the recipe or make separately?

    • Mel says:

      Debbie – As long as your mixer is big enough to beat the frosting in one bowl, you can definitely double. When I’ve doubled it, I add a few extra minutes to the beating (when adding the butter) since there’s more frosting to whip.

  383. Cindi says:

    Absolutely DIVINE. I don’t think I will ever make buttercream again! THANK YOU! Piped wonderfuly (just big swirls on cupcakes) after being in the fridge for a bit…Going to try some more serious stuff in the morning! We’ll see how it goes!

  384. Lien says:

    I would just add espresso powder to the milk mixture.

  385. Pris says:

    Every buttercream recipe I’ve found has threatened to give me a tooth decay at first bite. This is perfect! A little extra work, but you’re right, it’s so worth it! I made it to frost a chocolate cake and I added a hint of orange flavour to the vanilla. It turned out beautifully. Thank you! I actually made the cake to celebrate my blog turning one. If you’re interested, http://corianderandgarlic.wordpress.com/2014/09/19/milestones-vanilla-orange-chocolate-cake/

  386. Rose says:

    You said you would try piping this and let us know if it worked…did it?

  387. Lien says:

    I pipe with this all the time! Perfect swirls every single time 🙂

  388. Grace says:

    Hi Mel!
    I would love to make this but was wondering if I could substitute the cornstarch for an extra 3 tbs of flour. Would this change the taste/texture of the final product?
    Thanks!

    • Mel says:

      Subbing flour for the cornstarch might change the texture or taste but you could still try it (there are other widely used flour-based frostings like this online that don’t use cornstarch; I’ve tried a few of them in the past and far prefer this recipe, though, because the texture is lighter and less gummy). The reason the recipe uses both flour and cornstarch is for the extremely creamy/silky texture. Changing any of those amounts may affect the outcome. Good luck if you try it!

  389. Farah.F says:

    I really really want to try this frosting for a birthday cake but im always nervous making ANY kind of frosting because i don’t own a stand mixer (yet)…will a hand held electric mixer do just as well to make this magical frosting?

    • Mel says:

      I wouldn’t recommend this with a hand mixer because I’m afraid it might burn out the motor in the hand mixer (it needs a lot of high speed mixing).

  390. Kandel says:

    Hi! I made this frosting today using a hand mixer. I let everything cool to room temp and I put it in the fridge 30 minutes ago and it’s still so runny. I did use skim milk because that’s all we ever get. Should it thicken up with more fridge time?

  391. Greg Krehbiel says:

    Mel, I baked your Yellow Cake and frosted it with this frosting for Mary’s birthday cake. What a hit!! Adam was over and was amazed I had it in me to produce such a treat. I gave you all the credit. Your directions were easy to follow and in spite of my awkward kitchen skills, I pulled it off. Thanks for the help!! We miss you guys!!

    Greg

  392. Jasmine M says:

    Oh! This looks lovely! I’ve been trying to find the perfect frosting recipe that isn’t overly sweet and this is perfect! I have a question though. Can this frosting be made a few days before actually using it, or should it only be used when made?

  393. Lien says:

    Just make the base and set in the fridge with plastic wrap directly on it. When you need it, take it out and let it come to room temp or close and whip
    with butter. So easy!

  394. Erin M says:

    Hi Mel,
    I totally agree with everything in this post – I too am not a huge fan of traditional buttercream. Homemade versions are always grainy, and I feel like the sugar coats my teeth when eating it! I tried the pioneer woman flour frosting, and that too was a disaster. But this frosting, WAS AMAZING!! With traditional buttercream I could only handle a small layer of frosting, but with this, I can put thick layers, and it still tastes great without being too much sugar! This will forever be my favorite frosting, I can’t wait to try the chocolate version. However, I did have a mishap, I put the butter in microwave for 5 seconds just to be sure it wasn’t cold…accidentally did 5 minutes and had a pool of 3 sticks of melted butter :-/ !! Despite this, I was able to make this perfectly! Thanks for the recipe and the step-by-step instructions!!!

  395. I’ve been looking for a good frosting recipe to use on some black forest cupcakes instead of whipped cream, and I think this is the one!
    I’ve heard this type of frosting be called “mock whipped cream” before, does it taste a lot like whipped cream? Or should I sub some of the milk for heavy cream? I want to achieve a somewhat whipped cream taste, but want something more interesting than just a chantilly cream!

  396. La Traviata says:

    Lovely! I want to make the chocolate version, but we love milk chocolate and dislike dark chocolate. I would have said we hate dark chocolate, but in this case it would have cake attached to it, so at least we’d like the cakey bits. Anyway, couldn’t one use milk chocolate instead of semisweet? Any suggestions for adjusting the recipe to make rich milk chocolate frosting?
    Thanks for this. I’ve never seen anything like it.

    • Mel says:

      Actually, the chocolate version is quite light and creamy. I’d still use the semisweet chocolate chips – it doesn’t lend an overly bittersweet chocolate taste to the frosting.

  397. suzanne says:

    hi, Can we dispense the flour or Is there an alternative to it?

    • Mel says:

      Hi Suzanne – the flour is necessary to this recipe. You’d have to experiment if you wanted to leave it out or sub another ingredient.

      • David says:

        I don’t have a problem with the flour but I was thinking, maybe could substitute coconut flour for the white flour. 🙂

  398. Christine says:

    Hi, if I made a cake used this frosting inside and covered in fondant on a Wednesday would the frosting keep ok if I didn’t cut the cake Saturday?

  399. Ben says:

    When beating the frosting, do you use the paddle or the whisk attachment?

  400. Paula says:

    Mel: does this frosting crust? Would it work on a wedding cake?

  401. Dianna says:

    I see there is caramel version of this frosting. Have you heard of it or know how to make it? Can’t wait to try it!

  402. EVERYBODYLOVECHOCOLATES says:

    LOVE IT THIS WORKS WELL

  403. Emily says:

    I don’t know if someone has already commented on this but I just used this recipe last night to make cupcakes in a slight panic because I didn’t have any frosting, with an hour to go and then realized it takes a lot of time to cool down/warm back up, etc. I would just like to note that instead of waiting for the frosting to cool down on its own, I put it in the fridge for 5 minutes and the freezer for probably about 30, and it turned out great (in my opinion). I will probably even do that next time even if I am not short on time.

  404. Amy says:

    Hi, I am making this frosting for my daughters birthday on Sunday. I would like to make it and frost the cake on Saturday. Will the frosting be ok to do that ahead? I see you say don’t make the frosting ahead then try to beat it back together, but if its already together and on the cake will that be ok?

    • Farah.F says:

      Hi Amy, from my experience yes it should stay fine in the refrigerator. I used this frosting on cupcakes for my son’s birthday. I made them a day ahead and they were all good the next day. The cold frosting even tasted better actually 🙂
      Good luck.

    • Mel says:

      Yes, Amy, that should work great! I’ve done that several times. I usually refrigerate the frosted cake and pull it out several hours before serving so the frosting can soften up a bit.

  405. Gina says:

    Hi Mel,love your page! I’m trying to make this frosting and my issue is i think i cooked the moisture out of it because it turned into crumbs-lol- i think thats a no-no! Please help.

    • Mel says:

      Hi Gina, not sure what happened, sorry! You’d have to cook it an awfully long time to cook out all the moisture – are you sure you added all the liquid called for in the recipe? Did it turn to crumbs while cooking on the stove or later when you mixed in the butter?

      • Gina says:

        i realized that i did not use enough milk lol-tried again and it came out perfect! Thanks Mel.I also made the chocolate cake last week-to die for! Keep the recipes coming they are fabulous.Merry Christmas

  406. Suzanne says:

    Hi! This is my all-time favorite frosting recipe, but I’m not an experienced enough baker to know how to correctly adjust recipes (I am, however, an expert at INcorrectly adjusting recipes). My soon-to-be six-year-old has requested a vanilla cake with strawberry frosting.

    Is there a way to add strawberry puree to this frosting without it becoming runny and/or off-putting??

    • Mel says:

      The key with this frosting, in my opinion, is to add any extra liquid to the beginning step (cooking the flour mixture). I haven’t tried it but I wonder if you could replace some of the liquid with strawberry puree at the beginning?

  407. Rachel says:

    I was wondering if I could substitute liquid stevia for the sugar? I wouldn’t normally question it but I’m not sure if the sugar does more than sweeten in this case (texture, bulking, etc.)

    • Mel says:

      That’s a good question, Rachel, but I’m afraid I don’t know the answer. You’d have to experiment to find out (or maybe someone on this thread could chime in if they’ve tried it).

  408. Kelley says:

    I’m scrolling through the comments, but haven’t come across the answer yet. Have you or do you know if anyone has had success subbing gluten free flour for the flour. I’m recently eating gluten free, but love this frosting.

  409. Yan Ling says:

    HI!! OMG can i hug you/ kill you? I have been looking for the perfect frosting since forever because i always try the American Buttercream but am always disappointed by the sweetness/grittiness. This cream is sweet and fluffy but the sweetness is not overpowering and makes one want to try more 😀 I am thinking of adding various flavors to this frosting, for example, some salted caramel. I will update you on the results later! Thanks!

    • Mary says:

      Yes, I used to sell cakes and my customers from India , Pakistan and the far east were always surprised that they actually liked the taste of their children’s birthday cake.

  410. JK says:

    Hi, I looked through the comments for this, but I don’t have time to read all of them all the way back in time.
    I was hoping for a little more detail on the “difficult to easily whisk” step – I think “difficult” depends a bit on endurance levels and determination factor. 🙂 How would you describe the consistency of the mixture at the point when it’s thick enough to take off the heat – chocolate syrup, caramel sauce, paste?

  411. Miriam says:

    I live in Israel and we don’t have the same butter sticks as you have in the States. do you know the exact weight/grams/ml for the butter needed (24 tablespoons (3 sticks) butter, cut into 24 pieces and softened at room temperature)?
    Thanks!

    • Mel says:

      One stick of butter is 4 ounces.

      • Liz says:

        Your recipe was amazing but a but on the salty side. I may leave out the 1/4 teaspoon of salt or use unsalted butter next time. What do you suggest?

        • Mel says:

          Either of those suggestions sounds like it could help – I haven’t tried either one since I like the recipe as written but it’s worth experimenting to see. Good luck!

        • Rags says:

          I use unsalted butter in all my frostings and baked goods. That way you control the salt. I made this recipe for my sister and forgot to add the salt and it came out perfect. The salt helps to cut the sugar so the frosting isn’t overly sweet.

  412. Kathleen Herman says:

    I will definitely have to give this a try. I am a HUGE fan of whipped icing, and I seriously cannot find a recipe that compares to an icing I tried several years ago made by someone who won’t give up the recipe. I HATE that. It was like whipped cream, but not whipped cream. I don’t think I will ever get it, but I definitely want to give this one a try.

  413. danni says:

    I love the idea of having a frosting that is not super thick or super sweet, like most of the buttercreams that I’ve made in the past. I like that this is light and fluffy. I did add some whipped cream cheese at the very last stage, because I thought it wasn’t actually sweet enough. I also added maybe 1/4 to 1/2 cup powdered sugar at the end and let it all whip in together. It was delish! Thanks for sharing!

  414. Dorothy says:

    I’ve made the PW’s version several times and this is superior. Cooking the sugar with the milk instead of adding it later makes it smoother. I’ve also been recently diagnosed with wheat/gluten intolerance, so I used GF flour (Krusteaz Gluten-free AP Flour). It worked very well! Once it was ready, I also stirred some lemon curd into the portion used between the layers. Delish!

  415. Maryam says:

    Looks yum!
    Question! Will whole cream milk work in place of 1% milk?

    • Mel says:

      Yes, I think you could sub in 2% or whole milk with good results.

      • Gina says:

        I just made this frosting with mostly 2%milk. I put about 3 tbs of evaporated milk and the rest was 2%. (I thought it might need more fat?) It came out awesome! It’s going on my daughters birthday cupcakes. She said this frosting is what clouds would taste like. So light and creamy! great recipe.

  416. Tara says:

    Oh yum! What a great recipe! For years I’ve wanted an Icing recipe that isn’t sickly sweet and here it is! Absolutely divine! I didn’t have enough butter so I used margarine and still incredible and light. So I wonder how much better it would be with butter! Thank you for this. It will be used frequently in the future!

  417. CJ says:

    Hi Mel! I hate to say it, but this was the worst frosting I’ve ever made. It was for a birthday cake, and everyone commented on how it just tastes like butter. I made the chocolate version and it came together well, but the flavor was horrible. I’ve made the Pioneer Woman version, I think I’ll have to stick to that one in future. I was really disappointed, I wanted it to be great! Any ideas on why the flavor was off?

  418. Lien says:

    I think the quality of butter and chocolate play a big part in this recipe. Having tried both the pioneer woman’s and this recipe, I can’t see why this one would taste more buttery as I do not like the PW recipe for that very reason.

  419. Michelle says:

    Can you pipe this frosting with a pasty bag or is it betsy used to spread on cakes?

  420. Kasey says:

    I’m making a birthday cake for my father-in-law for tomorrow afternoon. Can I use this between layers of a round cake, or is it not stiff enough to work there? I have four skinny layers (about half an inch) planned. Thoughts?

    • Mel says:

      Hi Kasey – I use this between cake layers all the time! I hope this worked out for you.

      • Kasey says:

        It was perfect! I even added a little food coloring to two smaller batches and piped rosettes and a Happy Birthday message. No chilling of the frosting required! If I knew how to include a picture, I would. Thanks so much for sharing this recipe!

  421. Kristy says:

    Can this be made to be peanut butter. I have used this as is and love, love, LOVE it. Just didn’t know if it would work and if so what would I have to do to adapt it to make it PB.
    Thank you so much

    • Mel says:

      I’ve never tried a peanut butter version but maybe you could decrease the butter by a few tablespoons and mix in 1/2 cup peanut butter at the end while whipping the frosting?

    • Karen says:

      I haven’t tried it, but PB2 powder would probably work great!

      • Whitney says:

        I’m wondering if Kristy or Karen or anyone tried the PB version – AM LOVING THE IDEA!

        Would you guess that one might add in PB2 powder in the same way one would add in cocoa powder? IN ADDITION TO ? or INSTEAD of actual PB when adding butter?

        • Naomi says:

          So I made a peanut butter version. I added 1/4 cup slightly packed PB2 to the flour mixture. I have a 3 tier chocolate petal cake to ice and half way through making this realized I probably wouldn’t have enough frosting. This is my first time making a cooked frosting so I. Wasn’t sure but wanted to err on the too much side. So I quickly cooked up a second batch and put it in the fridge to cool for a few hours. I had left the first batch on the counter with the butter while I was at work. I also needed more volume for my mixer to work properly. It’s a 5qt bowl lift. I was getting more butter out when I realized I wouldn’t have enough. So I added all I had, about 4 1/2 sticks. It needed more fat to it and didn’t have the peanut buttery taste I was going for. So I tried adding some regular peanut butter to a small sample and it worked wonderfully. I then added 1 cup to the whole batch and is great. Still short a few tablespoons of fat so I hope it holds up okay. It’s doing it’s hour of chilling now. When I finished I couldn’t stop eating it so I guess that’s a good sign. Will update when cake is served in a day and a half. I used my family chocolate cake recipe which is quick and easy and so good. It tastes better after sitting a few days.

      • Mary says:

        Thank you Karen! I didn’t know that existed.

  422. Sundus says:

    I reduced the amount of butter by a couple tablespoons and still had great results!

  423. Zahn says:

    Hi, just saw this recipe and wish to try it. Would like to know if you can leave the cake for a few days without it spoiling. Th cake is not for a special occasion, I just like to bake and I make large cakes. Thanks, I am sooo tired of confectioner cakes like WIlton,s recipe. I will have to try it at another time though as I want to finish tonight

  424. Diana says:

    Hi Mel,

    I LOOVE this frosting! I made it along with your unbelievable chocolate cake, and they were DELICIOUS. I am in no way an experienced baker, this is actually only my second time “baking” anything. My first time I baked a rainbow cake for my sons birthday and the frosting ended up being a total bust I just used cool whip as frosting ( lol). But I am so glad I found a frosting that is delicious, not too sweet, and overall amazing! It will be my go to. The process is not hard at all, a little time consuming but it’s worth it! Tastes better than any other frosting I’ve had (store bought) . Thanks for the recepie!

  425. Christina says:

    I would describe the taste as whipping cream mixed with white chocolate. It bountifully frosted 24 cupcakes.
    It was very good, but a few mouthfulls did leave me feeling sick (maybe it was more than a few?) I am already thinking about tweaking it with a cooked thick vanillia pudding replacing the flour & milk mixture. I think this will get rid of the “cookie dough” taste some were decribing.
    Thanks for a great recipe!

    • Mary says:

      Sort of sounds familiar. Make a custard, then beat butter into it. But custard has eggs in it and now you would have to keep refrigerated,

  426. Lien says:

    ^^sounds like a german buttercream.

  427. Heather says:

    Hi Mel,
    I’m wanting to use your frosting recipe on a birthday cake. Have you had luck piping this frosting?
    Thank you!

  428. Axel says:

    Mel, your frosting is perfect for me. Thnaks for this post. I will back.

  429. Reham says:

    Can i freeze this frosting?

    • Mel says:

      I wouldn’t recommend freezing this.

      • Kasey says:

        If you frost first and then freeze it once it is on a cake, you’ll have no problems. My mother-in-law froze a leftover cake (who’s ever heard of leftover cake???) I made using this frosting, and it came out just as delicious when they ate it a few weeks later.

  430. ruby says:

    Hey Mel, I’ve just finished cooking the milk and flour mixture. The consistency is as you described it should be, but the color is strangely dark! I’m a bit worried and am hoping it lightens up once I add the butter. Any ideas what may have gone wrong?

  431. Mae says:

    I DID! Thank you! You are right about how great it’ll turn out! only downside is it can’t hold shape too well.

  432. Melissa says:

    Hi Mel,

    I was wondering if I could pipe “happy birthday” on this kind of frosting since it does seems so light and airy…I am worried what ever I use may bleed into the white frosting? Can you suggest what to do? Should I frost the cake with this magical frosting and use another for the piping? Any suggestions are very much appreciated! Thank you!

    • Mel says:

      Hi Melissa – I pipe with this frosting all the time (it helps to chill it first like the recipe suggests). Once you frost the cake with white frosting, it helps to refrigerate to let that frosting harden before piping another color on top.

  433. Chelsey T says:

    A follow-up on making strawberry frosting: 6 dark strawberries mushed into milk and strained to yield 1.5 cups milk came out suuuper delish and very strawberry flavored. In all other ways like the original. However, the vanilla made the whole thing brownish, so I had to use 2 drops food coloring for pastel pink.

    Also, I tried to chill this for piping, left it in the fridge too long and had to rewhip it. It was a hot mess texture-wise after that. But still delish.

  434. Melissa says:

    Hi Mel,

    I think I have finally decided I am making this frosting and your chocolate cake for my daughter’s birthday! Will there be enough frosting from this recipe to ice a 13 x 9 sheet cake and to have some left over to add food colouring gel to pipe letters on the cake? Thank you.

    • Mel says:

      Are you frosting just the top of the 9X13 cake? If so, then yes, I think you would have enough to frost the top and do some piping.

  435. Aimee says:

    This frosting knocked my socks clean off, from here to Texas. Seriously. It’s truly magical – best frosting I’ve ever had. I’ve made it (along with your chocolate cake recipe) at least 3 times now. I’ve even told my husband not to bake me a birthday cake (which always offers to do) because I simply MUST HAVE THIS ONE!

    I have a lemon cake on the agenda, and I wonder if this frosting would work with some lemon juice and zest added to it, or whether I should just stick with a lemon buttercream / confectioners sugar-type frosting. Any thoughts? Have you ever tried it with lemon or any other flavor?

    • Mel says:

      Hi Aimee – happy to hear you love this one. I haven’t made it with lemon but I believe several people in the comment thread have with great success.

  436. MJ says:

    I made this frosting and your Unbelievable Chocolate Cake & it was wonderful!!
    Could you please tell me, how long does the frosting last in the refrigerator since it has milk in it? Thanks!!

  437. Molly says:

    “Magical Frosting” is a totally apt name for this. I was incredulous (which is silly because every recipe on this site is amazing) and I felt like an actual magician. This frosting was PERFECT. I piped it on cupcakes, and my coworkers raved about the frosting more than the cake! Thanks for giving me a new (and super impressive) go-to frosting!

  438. Payton says:

    This is a fantastic recipe. I have successfully made the chocolate version with a lot more chocolate and it was to die for. I have also reduced the 1 1/2 cup sugar to 1 1/4 cup with no issues intact for what ever reason it came out better. We are toning down on sugary stuff and find as we go lower in our sugar content we are more sensitive to it in baked goods. I’d rather focus on favors then just sweetness anyway. So if you want to reduce it even more… You can definitely do so with a 1/4 cup…. Depending on how we like it I may even try 1/8th less next time.

  439. wreckabec says:

    This sounds delicious! I think I’m going to try your frosting for my son’s upcoming birthday party cake. I am doing a chocolate sheet cake (double layered) and then carving it into a number “5”. I would like do your frosting as filling, and then also as the main layer of frosting all over, but then to decorate with piped frosting in different colors and also a few fondant decorations. Do you think it’ll hold up to that kind of abuse? Haha. Will the color run? Thoughts? TIA!

  440. Natalie says:

    I tried it and it seemed to separate as it sat. What did I do wrong??

  441. Rhonda says:

    Mel, can I add food coloring to this. I need to pipe trees, will it stay formed?

    Thanks,
    Rhonda

    • Mel says:

      Yes, you can add food coloring. I’m not sure what type of trees you are wanting to pipe – tall, stand-alone trees probably not. But just a decoration piped onto the surface of the cake should be just fine.

    • Mary says:

      Remember this icing has real vanilla and butter and although it might not look it, there is a yellowish tint to it. So if you add a true green food coloring you might end up with olive green. Pink might be just a bit orangey and so on. This can even change with the time of the year because the butter changes.

  442. Natalie says:

    Tried again and it still separated! It’s sooo yummy (pretty sure I gained 10 pounds today) but just looks funny. I added the cocoa to the original mixture but didn’t add chocolate at the end. Is that my problem? Maybe I’ll just try the original next time and see if I have the same issue. Everything was room temp etc. Grrrr. On second thought, maybe I shouldn’t perfect it so I can fit into my jeans! 3 birthdays in 3 weeks is bad news! Love all your stuff.

    🙂 — a fellow Boisean (if that’s a word)

    • Mel says:

      Shoot, Natalie. Sorry this still separated when you made it! I suppose it could be due to the cocoa powder without the chocolate – the melted chocolate may act as a bit of a binder. If you make it “normal” and it still separates, let me know and we can do some more troubleshooting. I hear you on the yumminess, though – don’t even TRY it sandwiched on graham crackers. Just don’t.

  443. Kristina B says:

    Hey Mel!
    Just wanted to say thanks for this recipe! It’s turned out absolutely amazing both times I’ve made it and it pipes beautifully! This is the first time I’ve come across your blog and I can’t wait to try more of your recipes!

  444. Cindi says:

    Third time making it – LOVE IT – shared with lots of folks! Thanks for making buttercream go away :).

  445. Tracey says:

    Help! I just made the milk mixture for this and it turned out more like a thick syrup than pudding consistency. Has this happened to anyone else?? I’d hate to use all that butter in the next step of its not going to turn out! 🙁

  446. Alison says:

    I have been making a version of this recipe for as long as I can remember. Cook’s Illustrated made it better by adding the sugar to the cooked mixture (instead of creaming it with butter and then blending the two mixtures together which makes for a smoother end product with no grittiness at all) and by swapping out some of the flour for cornstarch. The straining also eliminates any possibility of lumps.

    I recently started a batch and realized I only had half and half. I also used some vanilla which had come from the Dominican Republic (much thicker than what we are used to) and it was UNBELIEVABLE.

    Also, I recently made a batch with a gluten free flour blend. It came out just fine. So yes, you can substitute the flour. You could probably also eliminate the flour and replace with just cornstarch, but I suspect the texture might be a bit gummy.

    I have never tried the caramel version and don’t recall the ingredients list, but I just made a batch using light brown sugar instead of granulated in an attempt to achieve a cookie dough flavor. This worked perfectly fine as well. Based on previous comments, I might try the chocolate version and pipe both together into two-tone rosettes.

  447. Alison says:

    PS I never had a problem with the separating as I do with this version but it’s an easy fix. Just keep beating it and it will come together. I’ve even made this ahead and frozen it.

  448. Venesa says:

    Have you (or anyone) tried to make this with shortening to get it to crust?

    • Mel says:

      I haven’t tried it with shortening.

      • Alison says:

        I have never made this with shortening, but may years ago I had a neighbor who used either all shortening or half shortening and half margarine* (I don’t recall which). I don’t believe this made it crust over but did give it a different flavor and texture, and is whiter than one made with all butter.

        *This dates back to the days when people used margarine and was probably more of an economic issue for her than anything else.

  449. esme says:

    I totally loved this recipe I made it twice and it came out perfectly I used half and half cream 10 percent I was wondering if I could use a smaller amount of butter say 1 cup butter I have a stand mixer so I beat it for 10 min I really thank you for this recipe my son in law said he liked as well as the expensive one they got on holidays so this recipe is making me look good my granddaughter is having a baby so they asked me to do them for here big shower thanks again

  450. Kristyn says:

    Holycrapthiswasamazing! Seriously so delicious! This might be the only frosting I ever make again.

  451. Mandy says:

    This sounds amazing! Would this frosting work with the Viva paper towel frosting method?

    • Mel says:

      No, I’ve tried it. Because it’s an all butter frosting, it doesn’t crust over like frosting that has shortening in it (which is the best for that Viva paper towel trick).

  452. Lisa says:

    What happens if you would use brown sugar? I’m wondering how that would work in the chocolate version. Also, can I use 1/2 cup cocoa powder, what would the extra dry ingredients do for the texture? I’m looking for a deep chocolate frosting and love this.

  453. Heather S says:

    Can you use Gluten Free Flour?

  454. Linda Pilkington says:

    I made the chocolate version today using Hershey’s Special Dark cocoa and Ghirardelli’s chocolate bar. OH MY GOODNESS!!! Best chocolate frosting ever. Also made your chocolate cake and layered it with raspberry filling and it is AMAZING!!!

  455. Claud says:

    Made this yesterday and it was really good I add some dulce de leche when I cook the mixture and turnout great. this will definitely replace my buttercream, thank you so much

  456. Creolechic says:

    I dont like icing that is too sweet and this was perfect. This recipe is similar to Italian buttercream without the risk of burning yourself on boiling hot sugar. Thank you for posting this!

  457. CABD says:

    Hi,

    Please let me know is this good enough to use under fondant?? TIA

  458. Shannon says:

    Hi,

    I have been looking for an icing to make my son’s birthday cake. I don’t care for the sweetness of buttercream. Is it possible to get the correct consistency with just using a hand mixer with the whisk attachment? I don’t have a stand mixture. Also, would the icing be okay with some fondant accents on top of it? Lastly, I was hoping to ice the cake Friday night for a Saturday afternoon party. Would it keep well for that if I refrigerated the iced cake and pulled it out a few hours before the party?

    Thank you!

    • Mel says:

      Hi Shannon – I haven’t tried this with a hand mixer because it requires such a long (and vigorous) mixing time. I haven’t used it with fondant but I believe others have up above in the comment thread. And yes, you could ice the cake a day ahead of time – just take it out in time for the frosting to soften to room temperature. Good luck!

  459. Angie says:

    Did you ever try using this to pipe with? I’ve made it before it is my favorite, but I haven’t tried piping with it. I’d like to use it for my daughters cake. Thanks!!

  460. Catherine says:

    Amazing! The chocolate frosting version is so good I wanted to cry! For any readers wondering…. I place in ziplock in fridge overnight, let come to room temp and piped cupcakes no problem next day.
    I’m using chocolate for inside layer of my daughters cake and outside vanilla.
    Gonna be amazing!

  461. Michele La Capria says:

    Hello I love vanilla frosting but cannot find a homemade one I love except for one that doesn’t taste good next day if left out and I hate to refrigerate my cupcakes. I refuse to use store bought because there is so mich garbage in there. I made something similar to this but didn’t get it perfect. I have two questions I want to make for my sons school party next week can I make a day ahead and frost and leave them out and if so are they still safe to eat and just as yummy? If not can I do the flour part and leave that out overnight and finish up the rest in the morning Because there is no way I would have time to do it all in morning lol. Thanks

  462. Lindsey says:

    I whipped this with a hand mixer not realizing the whipping needed to be so vigorous. I thought it seemed smooth enough and then my husband put it in a piping bag and it separated like nobody’s business. Did I not whip it long enough?

  463. Briana says:

    Hi Mel! How long do you think this leftover frosting will last in the fridge?

    Merry Christmas! Hope you are well!

    • Mel says:

      A week or so. 🙂

      • Hannah says:

        Hello! Delicious, decadent frosting recipe! Made it for my son’s first birthday yesterday and made extra. Hoping to use it on the extra cake I made for his other party this weekend. How would you recommend I store it in the fridge? It’s currently in a lidded Pyrex bowl. What would be your recommendations for using this frosting after it’s been refrigerated for a week? Bring back to room temperature? Re-whip or not?
        Thank you!

        • Mel says:

          That container should work just fine. Yes, I’d bring it back to room temperature and beat until light and fluffy again.

  464. Rags says:

    Hi Mel.

    I made this frosting for my sister and she loves it!! She won’t make it herself – just insists that I make it for her. For Liz who said the frosting came out salty, I always use unsalted butter in eveything, and especially for any recipe that calls for salt. That way I control how much salt is actually in the recipe. I totally spaced and forgot the salt the first time I made this recipe and it turned out great. I have a friend who is lactose intolerant so am going to try substituting the milk with plain and flavored non-dairy creamers to see how that works.

  465. Necole says:

    I am new to baking. LOL. Do I use salted or unsalted butter?? Thank you. Merry Christmas!!

  466. Teresa says:

    Hi Mel, I am a huge fan of your blog and have used many of your recipes as staples in my collection. You are the best! I am just wondering if, in your honest opinion, this frosting would be good on an angel food cake? I make one for my husband every year and I was thinking about either making this frosting or going with the other recipe you have with the whipped chocolate frosting and toasting almonds to top on the cake. Thanks so much for your time!

    • Mel says:

      Hmmm…I think the flavor and texture of this frosting might be a little too rich for an angel food cake but that’s just me. My favorite frosting for angel food cake is just heavy whipped cream, whipped to stiff peaks with a bit of powdered sugar and cocoa. So light and yummy.

  467. Robert K says:

    Recently, I tried this frosting, using heavy cream, and upping the sugar by one-half cup to 2 cups instead of the 1 and 1/2 cups the recipe calls for.

    During the cooking phase, however, the liquid never thickens substantially, as described. … Instead, the liquid just bubbles into a frothy mixture that is like syrup. … It still sets up well, and it tastes pretty dog gone good, but it just never thickens, really. … Is this because of the extra sugar?

  468. Susan says:

    Hi Mel,
    Love you, love your site! I was just reading your post about brown butter yesterday, but I haven’t tried it yet. I’m wondering if it would work in this recipe?

    • Mel says:

      I’m not sure how the browned butter would do added at the end of the frosting – it would have to be cooled (resolidified) but honestly, you’d have to experiment since I don’t know if it would set up in the frosting like butter in stick form as called for in the recipe. The idea sounds heavenly though!

  469. Lynn says:

    Hi Mel! I’m hoping you might see this before tomorrow (Thursday) sometime. I’m making a birthday cake for my friend, and she requested this icing with your chocolate cake for her party. I’ve made similar frostings with cutting in the butter while whipping, but honestly can’t recall which beater I used in my Kitchen-Aid. Do you recommend the whisk or the beater for this one? Thanks!

  470. Kerri says:

    Hi – first, I just have to say that your site is my absolute favorite and I recommend it to everyone! I have never made a bad recipe from your site and I am not an expert chef/baker.
    I was wondering if you had ever gotten around to piping with this recipe. I have to make a cake this weekend and the frosting needs to be piped and I wanted to try this recipe because of the great reviews but if you hadn’t had success, I will try one of your other frosting recipes instead.

  471. Jennifer says:

    I made the chocolate version of your icing, and my husband said this was the best icing I’ve ever made! So thank you for sharing your recipes! And it paired beautifully with your Perfected Yellow Cake! Just one question, though ~ does the iced cake need to be refrigerated?

    • Mel says:

      If it’s stored at cool room temperature it should be fine for 8-12 hours. Longer than that, I’d refrigerate but it will take 4-5 hours at room temp for the frosting to soften again.

  472. Becky says:

    Hello! Can’t wait to try this! At what point do you add food coloring of using? Thanks so much

  473. Dee says:

    This frosting was lovely! Seriously my new go-to. Not too sweet but delicious, light, and airy! I even won over my coworker who hates traditional buttercream.

  474. Joy says:

    Hi. I love your site! I would like to make this frosting along with the chocolate cake. Would it be OK to make the cake and frost it the day before and leave out until the next day?

    • Mel says:

      Yes, as long as it stays at cool room temperature, that should work great. It usually keeps a cake nice and moist to frost it all the way if it’s going to be a day before you serve it.

  475. Crystal says:

    This turned out great! Hopefully everyone likes it 🙂 I added 2 tsp of rum extract at the end (along with the vanilla) just to sweeten it up slightly and its amazing! I am making it along with you chocolate cake which so far so good!

    Thank you!
    C

  476. Amanda W. says:

    Mel this is a weird question:
    Do you whisk this in a non-stick sauce pan? That is the only type I have…so I have to use a silicon whisk (which bends more easily and can’t take thick mixtures) I am wondering before starting this if my silicon whisk will be able to handle it….OR do I need to buy a sauce pan that is not non-stick—so I can use my metal whisk?
    Sorry, I know you get a million questions—But I am planning this for my b-day and I don’t want it to fail!

    • Mel says:

      I use a stainless steel pot (without a nonstick coating) but if your silicone whisk is sturdy it should hold up to the job. It will be like whisking pudding or something similar to that consistency.

      • Amanda W. says:

        Thanks Mel:)
        And have you ever frozen the cake with this frosting on? Does this frosting hold up to being in the fridge if not the freezer?

  477. Amanda says:

    I tried the chocolate frosting yesterday and could never get it to come together. I seriously must have let it beat in my stand mixer for 20+ minutes and every time I stopped, it would separate and start to look grainy. I did cool the mixture in the fridge prior to beating and adding butter – it felt maybe slightly cooler than room temp (but only ever so slightly, because I had just checked it minutes before and it was still warm). Is the temperature of the mixure really that finicky? Looks like an amazing frosting so I’m just wondering what could have gone wrong! Thanks Mel!

    • Mel says:

      Hi Amanda – I do think the temperature of the cooked base can be the factor – it needs to be completely cooled and I’m guessing that might have been the issue. I’m sorry this didn’t work out – I know how frustrating that can be!

  478. Ayumi says:

    Hi Mel,
    I am not a fan of frosting. Yet as I was making this, I couldn’t stop myself or anyone else in the household from testing it. Lol thank you for sharing.

  479. Ketz says:

    Hi Mel,
    Was just wondering if you would be able to help me here : I made this frosting yesterday to go with your Unbelievable Chocolate cake. Both the frosting and cake were delicious (as always !) but the only thing that didn’t turn out quite as I expected with the frosting is that It didn’t have at all the same white colour as yours…mine was more like…well yellow…do you have any idea why ?
    Thanks !

    • Mel says:

      I’m guessing it has something to do with the butter you used. I’ve noticed that butter color differs based on brand (some are much more yellow than others). What brand of butter did you use?

      • Ketz says:

        Yes that must be it. I used Elle&Vire, but don’t know if you have that brand in USA…I live in Europe.
        Anyway, not a big problem as the frosting tasted very good ! =)

  480. wayne says:

    hi mel, u mentioned that its best to use a stand up mixer, I only have a hand held 1, will this work just the same?

    • Mel says:

      I recommend not using a handheld mixer because I don’t think it’s powerful enough to get the frosting as light and fluffy as it needs to be (it has to be mixed for a really long time).

  481. Debbie says:

    We call it 7 minute frosting . It is really good .

  482. Patty says:

    Do you think this could be used as a “tunnel” in a bundt cake?

  483. Jen says:

    I just made the chocolate version of this and it is very yummy! Not very chocolatey, but still good. My comment is regarding the cooking time. I wish it was more specific. Mine had to cook for 35 minutes before it got thick and was hard to whisk. When it cooled, it was like thick, sticky caramel, but the frosting still turned out well. I wish the recipe had a “time to cook once it’s boiling”. I will definitely try the vanilla version. Thanks for the recipe!

  484. kathie sucidlo says:

    I’ve been making a similar frosting for nearly 40 years and it is my family’s favorite. It isn’t overpoweringly sweet, and it looks beautiful. I plan to try yours next time to see how they differ.Looking forward to trying your version. k

  485. Amy says:

    LOOOOOVVVVEE!!!!! Added almond extract for a REEEAAALLLLY yummy frosting! Thank you!!

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